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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 08:26 AM) I am pretty sure that Forbes is smart enough to figure that stuff out. They study companies WAY more complex than the Chicago White Sox on a daily basis. If you really feel that way about your fellow White Sox fans, if it bothers you this much....isn't your enjoyment level always going to be limited by their perceived shortcomings? Do any other teams blame their fans for failure like we do around here? Cleveland? Tampa? Miami? Oakland? Colorado? Seattle? Or do they blame ownership? The stadium? Bad karma/fate/destiny?

I don't understand how vilifying the fanbase and taking the focus off the real culprits (JR, KW, Hahn, Bell and Ventura) is helpful at all. Obviously, complaining about the obvious shortcomings of that aforementioned group is pointless, but no more so than expecting blind allegiance to a leadership group that hasn't given us much reason to have faith or hope is a course many reasonable/rational consumers will take. Simply a matter of consistently diminishing returns from being a Sox fan. Want to compete in 2017? Either Fulmer emerges as an All-Star to complement Rodon or Hahn risks his career trading Quintana or Sale for someone like Puig. We have a bunch of replacement level or below starters on our roster, other than Abreu and Eaton. Possibly Cabrera, but you can't count on him and certainly not when he's two years older in 2017 (when they will of course hold onto him just like with Danks and Dunn and even Ventura as manager.) Hell, we might as well sign Iwakuma/Latos/Beachy/Fister just to watch that blow up in Hahn's face as well...then we can block Erik Johnson for another year and hold him back for that promised pennant drive in 2017 or 2018. PS. Surely Mike Olt will sell at least 28 season tickets as a member of the Sox caravan.

One of the favorite targets, Chris Davis of Baltimore, became suddenly not such a bargain with his second half.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) Hey, this is not a rip on Hillary. Anybody who posts regularly here knows I despise her so I don't need to get word out on that. I did have a question in the Democratic thread, since you guys are going to win the Presidential election again IMO. And judging from my poll on God I assume we have a fairly Democratic board on Soxtalk, mostly all Demos/liberals. If I'm wrong, my bad. I had a question to you Democrats and Republicans: Q-Partisan politics aside, does anything about your candidate excite you, or make you gung-ho, bursting with pride about being an American and the upcoming Presidential election? Is there anything about your candidate that makes you say, "Damn, these 4-8 years are gonna be great!!! I can't wait!!!" Just curious. In my case, no Republican candidate makes me feel that way and of course no democratic candidate. So I wanted to see if you were as fatalistic about the future as I am. I mean Obama ran on change and youth the first time and people were stoked!!! What about now? For you is it just, yeah we'll win cause Democrats always win, but whatever. I have no faith my candidate will make much of a difference. Before Obama, there was only Carter and then Clinton. 12 years of Dems, 28 years of GOP presidents....Nixon/Ford, Reagan, Bush, GW Bush. So even with demographics seemingly in favor of the Dems, there's no overconfidence because of issues like Citizens United and the continued deterioration of labor groups/influence. Not to mention the fact that Asians are going to be an even faster growing demo than Hispanics until 2065, and it's way too early to assume the GOP will continue to piss off/offend both and force the majority to the Dem side. A young candidate like Rubio with charisma can carve off a lot of votes if he can only manage to articulate moderate or reasonable policies which appeal to both sides from the middle. Triangulation in Clinton vernacular. Can he get there from the right/Tea Party side without offending those same groups that put him in office, only time will tell. I still can't imagine Sanders being electable, Trump...no way, so that leaves Rubio, Kasich and Christie. Kasich has the most experience, but he might have a little too much of that Carson soft-spoken/understated thing going. He's almost too reasonable. Would like to see more fire out of him but playing it close to the vest and watchingthe field implode around him has its merits as well.

The Republicans have a quandary. Is Bush still viable or has he been compromised as a candidate by his early showing? Realistically, the money has to flow towards him or some combination of Rubio, Kasich or possibly Christie, whose "hug" with Obama will always be used against him by the right wing. I suppose a Rubio/Fiorina or Kasich/Fiorina combo would be another back-up plan...but that's only if she can continue to hold her own and maintain mid teens support. Bush is still in it for now, but the clock is ticking on him...the recent comment anout Obama giving out freebies was either uncharacteristically stupid or calculated political theatre to appeal to the base.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 08:29 PM) Probably. It remains odd that the Sox have pretty darn good starting rotation and yet suck as a team. Why? Lots of blown saves. Terrible offense. Terrible defense. Terrible baserunning. Too many mental mistakes. Inconsistent execution. Lack of clear leadership and vision organizationally.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) Nellie Fox for Joe Tipton. Joe Borchard for Matt Thornton Loiaza for Contreras

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) So Obama had better experience then a CEO of a Fortune 500 company? Yeah, I don't think so. They both might be massive failures but I think you very much underappreciate how much it takes to be a CEO of a large organization. I've met a lot of politicians and I've met a lot of executives...very rarely have I met a politician who was smarter than the executives I've met. Often times, the politicans I've met at various fundraisers / charity events, blow me away their lack of savvy and overall acumen. And our greatest presidents in Lincoln suffered failure after failure. Grant was one of the two or three worst presidents. That said, the one former CEO I was extremely lucky to work with in the non-profit/volunteer field, Tom Bloch of H&R Block, would trounce that field but he's not an attention seeker (although quitting to teach math in an inner city parochial school certainly gained him a lot of attention). Adele Hall, whose husband ran Hallmark Cards, would be a close second.

We promised to help build up Albers' free agency bids. Actually, it would be nice to get him another win and let Carlos take that into the offseason...beating the Yankees in NYC with an almost 1:1 ball to strike ratio.

That was crazy 2-3 years ago when the Pirates' fans pretty much destroyed Cueto. Will there be a sequel?

So if I predict a 1-2-3 Robertson save tonight, that also must occur. Need to play the lotto for once.

What are the odds of calling out two players and having them both homer in the same inning? Must be punishment for not following the team as much with all the pressures of a new job and 7 month old.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) We are playing him because he is capable of doing what he did just now 20 times a year. By that theory alone, they should go with Viciedo over Garcia.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 05:41 PM) A lot of money comes off the books after next year. Get a few value signings/trades this offseason (lotto tickets and such), let some of the young guys play, and look to 2017 to compete when guys like Anderson and Fulmer are hopefully ready. Don't expect to be contenders, but if things go well and a few guys rebound or break-out we could have a year like 2008 while not sacrificing any pieces for 2017. Basically the brief and pithy version of Balta's plan. Of course, it will kill season tickets but there's no fixing that at this point anyway...sunk costs. So they will have to be patient. Just not sure how plausible that is.

Couldn't believe Trayce was hitting third when I saw the line-up. Never would have predicted that before this season. Why exactly are we playing Olt and Beckham?

If Rodon pitched for the Cubs, he'd be 3rd-6th. The pedestrian numbers the first half of the year caused a lot of writers to go to sleep on him and they're only just noticing his numbers again now since everyone ignores the White Sox (of course, you make the same arguments for ignoring the Twins and Indians as well).

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) The only two horses*** organizations in the AL Central are the Indians and the White Sox. The Royals have reemerged despite their stupid manager. And at least the lower budget Indians sprung for one of the respected and highly paid managers in the game. They've got young pitching, Kipnis, Brantley, Gomes, Santana and Lindor. I'd say they're a step or two ahead of us, but consistently upended by weak pens like the Tigers.

Like Herman Cain? Ross Perot? Meg Whitman? I also think basically being an anti-CEO like Nader or Warren requires just as much savvy because you have to win at a financial disadvantage and without a massive team of pr and marketing people behind you. If you want to extend CEO to general/admiral, our country has had a lot more success with leaders from that group. And, of course, Abraham Lincoln had many noted failures, was never anything close to a CEO like George Washington as leader of the Continental Army, and led a very solitary/lonely battle with issues of depression.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 11:12 PM) Yet Jimmy Carter mentions God a lot, bless the man! I don't need my President to mention God a ton but I do respect Jimmy's stance. Once these secondary candidates emerge I'll have to examine their positions. I'm still most interested in the 15 minutes of fame candidates: Bernie, Donnie Trump, the Surgeon and Carly. I'll get around to learning about the others. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/24/opinion/...ol-right-region Opinion piece on Carson.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 04:15 PM) greg has found some great sources lately! newsmax, infowars, pamelagellar.com Any relation to Sarah Michelle? Surprised no Elizabeth Warren comments here. Oprah?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) It makes more sense if you focus on who is employing who -- Players, managers, coaches, training staff, are all employed by the Major League organization. The GM of the milb team is emplyoed by... the owner of the milb team. The affiliates are (mostly) independent businesses that are contracted by the MLB teams to provide a playing environment for their players. The milb team is a third party. The milb GM doesn't "work for" the MLB affiliate. Yes, except for rare circumstances when the MLB teams themselves owned the affiliates (pretty rare) and used those teams/front offices as training opportunities. Or the Az and Florida facilities that have short season teams. Basically, the main reason, though....was to control the quality of the clubhouse/facilities and especially the playing surface quality. Used to be the case more in the low/er minors, think A ball and below.

The Twins/Plouffe deal would make more sense without Berrios in their system. They will want more of a sure thing than Fulmer...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) So what? Hillary did the same thing in that clip. She wouldn't name fricking anybody after ripping the Republicans. She must go away. I don't think we've ever had a President as outwardly egotistical as Hillary. It's going to be a disaster. Besides Jimmy Carter and maybe Gerald Ford, name just one from history without one of the biggest egos. Maybe Bush, Sr. (Note the fact that none of them are thought to be close to the top tier). Read 1776 by David McCullough. Think Washington was modest? Think again. Bill, Barack and George W.? Huge again. Trump? Out of the stratosphere. Someone will probably use Abraham Lincoln as an example, but he was a once in a lifetime leader that wouldn't see the light of day in today's media climate with the focus on looks and pithy sound bites.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) The Republicans have all these joke candidates who are getting their 15 minutes. First Trump now Florina. Will they even have a nominee by the time this is over? Florina is beyond bad candidate; and Donnie is a caricature/clown. Nobody wants the surgeon. None of those next eight candidates are any good. WOW. Walker was a joke intellectually. Kasich, Rubio and Christie would all do pretty well imo. Finally, you (theoretically) should be happy with Cruz, Huckabee and Santorum as well, as God would be mentioned every day by them. The Clintons and Obamas hardly ever speak about religion, comparatively.

Robertson and Duke make little to no sense for a team far from competing. That said, they were logical at the time...although everyone must have been shocked at overpaying a potentially declining closer for more than three years at those dollar figures.