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QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 08:15 PM) This one is over. Books out on Quintana Bad location and getting behind in counts. Bad command in the strike zone. Has thrown way too many innings compared to past seasons in the minors. He was going to inevitably hit the wall at some point. That said, he'll be fine and come out of it eventually. He can still get out of this inning only down by 1.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 08:12 PM) Kendrys Morales just hit a 2 run homer & a grand slam in the same inning.....Trout also went yard again. Outside of starting Felix Hernandez or Cliff Lee against them, no White Sox team is going to be favored against the Rangers or Angels in that one game playoff. They have to take the division if they want to advance this post-season. Then again, if they somehow won that game, they'd have a lot of momentum and the "bye" team would find themselves back on their heels but with a pitching advantage holding their #1 starter back. Another ERROR. Both our "injured" guys are struggling in their comebacks.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 08:08 PM) HE's already thrown 92 pitches? What inning? Bottom of the 6th. DET now hitting top of the 7th.

Textbook game in Minnesota. White Sox errors, Twins dinks, Twins defense and "luck" with at 'em balls.....White Sox power versus Twins' "grindiness" or whatever you want to call it. Luck seems to go their way, against us at least. Not in Chicago, anymore. But this series is very dangerous with Diamond lurking and no idea which Liriano will show up against his former team. Not to mention Blackburn will be super-motivated to beat Francisco, maybe the most motivated he will be all season long in any game at home.

Scherzer just threw 98 MPH on pitch 92. Pretty amazing to have two guys like that on one team. Unfortunately for Max Patkin, Jr., he's down 4-2.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:57 PM) It mattered he got 2nd base on the error and scored on a single. So you have the botched ball (not an error, but he regularly makes it) against Span, the ball thrown away (could have been an out and only 4-2), then Doumit advancing to 2nd and scoring on the Valencia hit. So three "deleterious" plays in the last game plus that he normally makes.

What's the biggest lead we've blown this year? The Peavy 6-0 lead against the Tigers? Sale against Kershaw in LA? Those two games stick out, for some reason.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:55 PM) Doumit was going to be safe regardless. So the error didn't matter. The runner (Doumit) wouldn't have been at 2B, though, for Valencia. So the 4th and tying run would have been stranded. If he didn't hesitate a bit and do the 360 spin, he has him...75% chance, at least.

Not a good pass at a 3-1 pitch there Adam. Oh, well. Would have loved to get Konerko (Mr. 857 against De Vries) up there somehow.

Battle of the bullpens tonight. Not sure who that favors at this point.

Never throw Gordon Beckham an offspeed pitch. Note to AL scouts.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) This is why KW will get us another starting pitcher before the deadline. Even with Frankie this staff just has too many questions. Somehow, I have a feeling we end up with Dempster, don't know how it will happen, though. Right now, you have no idea what to think about Sale or Quintana going forward. Quintana's fastball was there, he was up to 91, it was his location and getting behind in the count that killed. That and a dinker that Alexei couldn't handle and Revere beating the defense to the opposite field with Viciedo playing tight.

Well, let's see if Quintana can settle down. He's had two games now where he's been rocked early and pitched well for another 4-5 innings afterwards. Gut check time.

Two games in a row sabotaged by our defense. Trade Quintana, lol? Too late. Have a feeling it could end up like the Phil Humber situation from one year to the next.

That sucks. Ramirez has cost us two runs now in two games. Oh, well. Hopefully we can at least hold the lead.

Probably 5-4 now in the old stadium.

Here's where not having Santiago is going to hurt. Nathan Jones is now the long man and he's only equipped to go a couple of innings.

POOF. Hence the need for yet another starter, possibly. Quintana's probably going to hit a wall, too.

Good chance Span gets traded to the NL. The Nats want him or Michael Bourn in the offseason, supposedly. Unfortunately, in that park...you can't have two guys like Span and Revere.

Showtime. Cryogenic Linea. Starting to feel almost a bit sorry for the Twins. Jose, you have your cushion finally for your fifth. Let's shut them down this inning and step on their necks and have Liriano mow Blackburn down tmrw. Meanwhile, weird to cheer on the Red Sox, but it's all good.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 06:40 PM) He should watch hours and hours of tape of Johan Santana. Very similar build/wind-up. That's what I thought last year, too. I remember starting a thread after he relieved those two times and was great about him being a starter this year. Off a bit on that one...but Cooper really likes Santiago, they're both Brooklyn/NJ guys. Ozzie didn't really like Hector and wanted to use veteran pitchers as much as possible. Similar FB, 91-92-93 as a starter...needs to develop that change-up or screwball or some other offspeed pitch in the high 70's/low 80's that he can throw with confidence. Otherwise, he's another of our "pump fastball after fastball" bullpen guys who can rarely get their breaking stuff across the plate.

What's the latest on Molina? Any chance he's in the AFL or winter ball (hopefully KW will be paying more attention to his whereabouts this around) in Venezuela? Rienzo might have an outside shot, too. Petricka had been on something of a fast track but now he's been passed by the likes of Johnson and Snodgress, maybe even Vance...seemingly.

Not to sound like Harrelson, but the White Sox have a much better defense than the Twins, especially the middle infield. That's going to help Liriano quite a bit. I would offer Liriano $15-17 million for two years, backloaded a bit. Keep AJ and Youk. Shed Peavy and Thornton (just to annoy Dick Allen). Give Jesse Crain some type of trophy for getting out of 1st and 3rd, no outs, the other day. Something Matt Thornton hasn't done since 2010. Wait and see how Floyd finishes the season. That one could go either way. I don't think he's a $9.5 million pitcher, but we've paid that to Javy, Contreras (extension, after he was no longer dominant), Garcia and Garland, and Gavin fits in with that grouping, all things considered.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 10:20 AM) I know you like to equate Thornton's performance with his paycheck, so you might as well know that he actually made $3 million last year, a little over half of what you think he did. 12:$5.5M, 13:$5.5M, 14:$6M club option ($1M buyout) The extension was signed at the time with the understanding he was going to be the closer for the length of his contract. $12 million dollars is QUITE a bit to pay a set-up guy for 2 years.

The Indians would be crazy to trade Choo. If they can't afford to pay him $7.6 million, Dolan should just sell off. Santana, by the way, has been MUCH better the last month, but his first 3 months were Beckham-esque, and considered he was considered a future hitting superstar, along with Hosmer, lots of disappointment in KC and CLE over those two guys.