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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:02 AM) We do have a real habit over the years of having guys stall at the AAAA level who go on to be solid relievers with other teams, don't we? Rauch Majewski Frank Francisco (wouldn't describe him as stalled, though) Aardsma Javier Lopez with Boston Masset MacDougal Jesus Pena (joking) Chad Bradford Josh Fogg Rocky Biddle

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) Andy Sisco. Don't know how many of these guys actually had TJ surgery... Lorenzo Barcelo Jim Parque Jason Stumm Corwin Malone Danny Wright Jon Rauch (labrum) Rocky Biddle Bobby Howry Kelly Wunsch James Baldwin Mike Sirotka Kyle Kane Kris Honel Brian West

QUOTE (That funky motion @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 10:23 PM) I agree with you that BA will only be a 4th OF and his swing sucks. But the only manager that would keep Wise over BA is Ozzie. Do you really think KW completely disagreed and wanted to keep BA on the roster? I think they know maybe he COULD POSSIBLY get hot down in AAA playing everyday and maybe they could capitalize on that if they can't find a replacement for Wise.

All I know is that we should get someone like Endy Chavez that can actually handle the bat (a little bit) and can play all three outfield positions extremely well. Yes, KW, those players DO exist. We can't keep having Pods/Wise/Dye trying to hold down leads from the 7th inning on. That's just a recipe for disaster.

JESUS JENKS....

Has there ever been a worse defensive outfield in the history of the game than the one we're trotting out there now?

Can Jenks please just have ONE 1-2-3 inning every couple of weeks or so?

Minnesota wiping the A's out at the Coliseum, 8-2.

Who is playing CF now? What did Jenks eat for breakfast? Power Wheaties?

Beckham and Ramirez look like a consistent 20/20 club waiting to happen up the middle with steals and homers each season. 30/30 would be amazing, and Ramirez is the more likely one there....but we'll easily settle for 20/20 every year. Who got sent down to make way for Quentin, BTW?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 08:38 PM) Linebrink's fastball is at 93-94 mph. The problem is it's so straight, and he rarely throws an offspeed pitch. He had pinpoint control the first half of last year, and that has totally abandoned him. What happened to his slider? Seems the bottom of the order has let us down a little in this game, but what can you expect with Fields having sat for so long? Nix usually is a good match-up with lefties, though. Atta boy Gordo, don't go down quietly.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) How could Thornton have gotten Longoria who is right handed??? I don't understand? Don't we need to have a righty pitch him? Kidding. What a joke Ozzie is with this righty on righty BS. Nothing more over played in this game of baseball, that s*** doesn't matter. Bring in your best f***ing pitcher for the 8th and 9th and close the f***ing god damn game out, for christ f***ing sake! I'm a little relieved Ozzie didn't bring in Jenks to face Longoria...just a hunch, seems Ozzie had the same feeling, too.

What pitcher in the bullpen isn't scary right now? We have to get something out of Pena, Linebrink seems done, at least for now...until his good fastball comes back. Can't believe we didn't score in the bottom of the 6th or 7th, let's hope it can stand up. By all appearances on the net, though, a great game...very entertaining. Wish we could have put it away earlier, but we can still score some runs here.

Grudzielanek is not a SS anymore. He will be replacing Casilla (.177) and Tolbert over at 2B. Punto, Buscher, Harris and Delmon Young will all continue to get significant playing time, and their OPS numbers are pretty abysmal, even compared to the White Sox.

Whatever Beckham's doing off the field, we haven't heard nearly as many stories as were circulating about Brian Anderson's late nights and "hunnies"...I think with Ozzie, he doesn't really care what you do off the field, as long as you perform when the lights come on. But if you're underachieving AND going out all the time, woe is you!

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 09:38 PM) How is he supposed to gain experience in a situation like that if you want to keep him out of a situation like that without giving him experience in that situation? You and a couple of others just made a huge Catch 22 with him. Ozzie needs to use him, Ozzie set him up to fail by using him today. It's one thing of Poreda was wild, but has showed amazing stuff. He has yet to show amazing stuff. Right now, he's much worse than MacDougal because he has jack s*** going for him. He should be traded while his value is high. This place reminds me of Soxtalk a couple of years ago when they would do whatever it took to protect Jeff Bajanaru. You mean Bajenaru, Joe Valentine, Rob Purvis, Brian West, Kevin Beirne and Aaron Myette weren't ready for greatness?

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 09:36 PM) Yeah, like I'm the only guy who complains. Did you happen to notice that the thread is on the SUBJECT of Ozzie's mismanaging? Thanks for the inept reply. You have have all the credit for a win you want (and I do give credibility when it's due), but it doesn't change the fact he does some really inexcusably stupid things, and as I keep saying, no excuse or pathetic argument an Ozzie defender will make ("He's not the only one who makes mistakes," your excuse, etc.) changes that. It really amazes me to no end that with all the supposed intelligent fans on this board, I have yet to see someone make a point that disproves what I'm saying. But I'm not getting into this again. Not worth it. So which managers (not named Ozzie Guillen) do you think would have led us to a championship in 2005? Cito Gaston? Jerry Manuel? Wally Backman? I'm sure the usual answers (Gardenhire, Torre, Tom Kelly, LaRussa, Maddon, Scioscia, Francona, Leyland, Ken Macha, Piniella, etc.) Right?

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 10:04 PM) Coming off a WS win you can't hardly blame them for going for it. I just hope it gets done soon if he really is going to Philly. And the NL has to be the Jays preference anyway. We did the exact same thing in 2006 with the additions of Thome, Mackowiak, Vazquez, etc. It just didn't work out...and Rollins is having a pretty horrible season offensively, they could use some help from the pitching to complement Utley and Howard. And of course, Werth wasn't going to continue to play like an All-Star.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 07:58 PM) Yes, and no one will ever convince me otherwise after that s***job "managing" he did in that game vs the Cubs we gave away. But... I have EYES. It didn't take me NEAR that long to realize Ozzie is an idiot. But couldn't we find 54 games for even the "great" managers in a season and pick apart their moves and say they contributed to their teams losing those games? Why doesn't Ozzie get credit when we win, but only blame for losing that 5-1 lead to the Cubs, to the Pirates (Jenks isn't at fault either) or failing to take 3/5 against the Tigers, because Ozzie apparently is the home plate umpire, too.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 06:47 PM) People have mentioned getting Rolen, Rios, and Wells back in a trade, but what about Marco Scutaro? If we give up Alexei, they have to move Scutaro or Rolen, but getting Scutaro back instead of Rolen makes a lot more sense from a financial standpoint. He's only owed about 1 million after this season. However, he'd likely raise the cost more because he'll probably get at least type B comp in the offseason. Plus, Scutaro is a Venezuelan SS. We always say how Ozzie will bring in so many Venezuelans, but that's never materialized. We kind of ran off Ordonez (understandably) and couldn't get Miggy Cabrera. I guess there's Santeliz in the minors, that's about it.

797 OPS in 115 at bats.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 06:29 PM) On BA not earning playing time, I'll totally agree. I just can't see how anyone could make a case that Wise will put up an 800 OPS against anyone and Anderson won't. Simple...is BA putting up a 800 OPS (or close to it) against EITHER RHP or LHPing? Ozzie knows that Wise is capable of doing that at least, as recently as last season...he witnessed it first-hand.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 06:26 PM) Yeah, that's weak. I was thinking though, I really do have a theory now as to why Ozzie played Wise all three games this past series. And no, its not "cuz he's fasssssssssssssssst". I think they are probably going to be getting rid of Wise in the next few days, when Quentin returns, and they are trying to give DeWayne more playing time on the off chance some other organization wants to have him. Not that he's worth anything in trade probably, but at least Wise can go get a job. Just my recent pet theory. I could very well be wrong. Lillibridge and Fields are still worth MUCH more than Wise. 10 Wises are worth less than 1 BA, one of my least favorite players. Betemit is worth more than Wise, even.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 06:12 PM) Really? That's the best you've got? This is Ozzie's way of demonstrating to KW that he needs something different, putting Wise out there every day? Clearly Ozzie believes that by giving Wise almost all the AB's against RHP, he can capture (or recapture) his .800 OPS against them in the second half and get on a hot streak finally, like at the end of 2008. Defensively, there's obviously no comparison. That and the fact he also believes Wise's speed on the basepaths is more valuable to the line-up than BA's defense in the field. So it's really, 640 OPS BA versus 800 (if he can do it) OPS Wise, and that's clearly a decision that could go either way, with arguments on both sides. Also clearly, BA didn't do anything to prove he should play everyday or get more playing time.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 05:52 PM) I am usually a defender of Ozzie, because I think he is doing things at times that people here don't see the long term view on. However, this season, there are two things he has done which are just not good, short or long term. One is the DeWayne Wise show (and don't talk to me about 1 at-bat today). The other is, Poreda is just sitting there in the 'pen getting rusty, which makes zero sense. I don't care so much exactly what situations he has him go in, I just want to see him pitch some damn innings. He's being misused and it drives me nuts. Have you ever thought maybe Ozzie's trying to demonstrate clearly that he needs some help at that position? That he doesn't have the confidence to play Anderson everyday (because of his 630-650 OPS typically) and that he believes the odds of Wise getting hot and putting up an 800 OPS against righties with consistent playing time outweighs the defensive benefits of Anderson. Surely you don't want to play Anderson, Kroeger or Lillibridge in CF every game?