caulfield12
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Cease To Padres per Passan
Trading for Woo or Miller as the main piece for Cease doesn’t make any sense after trading Burger for pitching and leaving massive positional holes all over the roster… Just another signal the Sox never plan to pay for FA pitching again in the future. 6 years of control for a middle of the rotation starter simply isn’t worth it…if you think back to the Eaton trade, that was for two guys who had the tools to be #1/2 starters with Dunning more of a 3/4 or 4/5.
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Mariners/Twins 5-player deal...
This is exactly what the Orioles hope to start doing with Hays Mullins Santander Mountcastle Mateo and Urias...turning vets into cost controlled prospects and reallocating the cost savings to other roster needs.
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Sox looking at building in South Loop
This is a shocker...glad he's your favorite NASCAR driver.
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Mariners/Twins 5-player deal...
Presumably Julien takes over full time for MN. Mariners this offseason are almost impossible to figure out. Gonzalez is the long term value obviously, but Anthony DeSclafani and Justin Topa in the pen will play big roles for the Twins in 2024. Basically netting a top 100 prospect and major league pitching help (although not elite) for the present...and now can use the cost savings elsewhere. Brooks Lee (top 15 MiLB) isn't that far off from forming an impressive infield with Correa Lewis and Julien. Of course, I'm guessing most Twins' fans aren't exactly enamored with DeSclafini ...
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
Yeah...they're definitely not going to spend significant money on pitching from now until next off-season...it should be almost 100% directed at position players. Winnowing down the field of contenders and pretenders.
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Mariners/Twins 5-player deal...
https://www.mlb.com/news/mariners-twins-trade-for-jorge-polanco https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/mariners-land-former-all-star-infielder-jorge-polanco-in-trade-with-twins/ If the Twins don't make any more moves they will begin the 2024 season with a starting rotation featuring Pablo Lopez, Chris Paddack, Joe Ryan, Bailey Ober and Louie Varland. The first four names are locks, while it appears Varland will enter spring training with an opportunity to win the fifth spot along with DeSclafini. Twins general manager Thad Levine was a guest on Sirius XM MLB Radio over the weekend and suggested that Varland will compete for the job and that the Twins are still scouring free agency and the trade market for starting pitching depth because the losses of Kenta Maeda, Sonny Gray and Tyler Mahle "leaves a little bit of a hole in our starting rotation."
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Sox looking at building in South Loop
Having seas of parking lots, it's quite reminiscent of Kauffman and Arrowhead together right off two interstates. Great for tailgating, but terrible from an "entertainment" standpoint of having any other activities, bars/pubs/restaurants, shopping and office complexes, parks, etc. Just miles of concrete/asphalt. Not exactly visually or aesthetically appealing in any sense.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
Except Robert won't be around for more than another year...or could even go at the deadline. Most likely next offseason.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
Well, Kopech's value has never been lower...still retains some residual name value and the #21 fastball which wasn't all that effective last year. In the end the heavy lifting will always come down to FA...and they simply can't follow the same approach of avoiding every single $100+ million contract. Maybe the Orioles can get away with it, but even the Royals added Zobrist Cueto Shields etc., and the Cubs Jon Lester most famously. At any rate Toronto has to keep Varsho (came up as Vasshole lol) insurance for Kiermaier at the very least.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
All things considered...the Brewers don't ever go on that extended run without Braun Yelich and lots of pitching. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/christian-yelich/11477/stats?position=OF Only 8.5 fWAR for the last four years. Even if you valued that production at let's say $70-75 million adjusting for 2020...you've got the totality of $215 million likely falling off the last four remaining years. The problem is who in the world doesn't try to keep their own player at that age coming off two consecutive 7+ fWAR years, an MVP award, etc.??? The Rays...arguably.
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The OF Thread
Isn't Anderson a former infielder? Almost NU basketball coach and Ozzie's nemesis? Then there was a Brewers' pitcher with that name as well.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
https://www.fishstripes.com/2021/1/25/22247364/christian-yelich-trade-brewers-marlins-results-3-years-later This is arguably one of the best trades of the last decade. So obviously...rather than Cease, the majority of teams are going to want prospects back. In fact, the lack of top line prospects is what kept the Sox from trading for Miggy Cabrera and changed the course of the AL Central similarly to what Yelich did for the Brewers. The idea was to find an undervalued asset who had the capability of exploding. Ideally, Varsho would be closer to having just 2 years of service time...rather than merely three increasingly expensive years remaining. Then the second key is being able to afford a generous enough extension to be enticing. And you're arguably MUCH better off giving that extension to a player at Varsho's CURRENT age than 30/31. You have to lock in ages 27-29/30 and not the decline years. So back to the drawing board trying to find that future star every single GM is on the look out for. And Christian Yelich is the blueprint...as he was a rising but erratic youngster with worlds of potential but not a future HoFer already. This is another quite similar situation to Cease now...albeit Greinke with more like Dylan Cy 2022 version value. (On December 19, 2010, the Kansas City Royals traded Zack Greinke and Yuniesky Betancourt to the Milwaukee Brewers for Lorenzo Cain, Alcides Escobar, Jeremy Jeffress, and Jake Odorizzi.) Finally, not sure Getz has the cojones or desired prospects to even pull it off in first place. Clearing out half of the top line talent from a top heavy and still quite thin system would be a career killing risk. Conversely, reflect back on Todd Ritchie for Kip Wells Josh Fogg Sean Lowe...an example where the acquired asset blew up in the wrong way and wiped out future depth that could have filled out a rotation for the better part of a decade. Or Nick Swisher. Or Jeff Samardzija. Nick Swisher is the closest example of what that trade would look like. Obviously fell on the wrong side of that deal as well. Just desperately want to jump start this thing with some exciting positional talent we can watch sooner rather than 2-3 years from now. IMO, far better to have that young player on board to launch a new stadium as well.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
You must not have much faith in Chris Getz if you think fans will patiently wait around until 2027/28 to compete in this division. Or that he is any better than Hahn at signing Tier B free agents priced twice as high as previously.
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Cease To Padres per Passan
Nor will Soros at Davos.
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Tigers sign Colt Keith to a 6 year extension
"Life-changing moment for Colt," Matt Paul (his agent) told the Free Press on Sunday afternoon. "He put himself in a position to secure enough money financially to where, regardless of what happens, his family should be well taken care of, him and his fiancée. Our philosophy was to make sure we were flexible in our approach to these conversations. If the player has interest in potentially pursuing this type of opportunity, it's our job to do a complete analysis of the potential market. We did a complete analysis." The Tigers, under former general manager Al Avila, selected Keith at No. 132 overall in the fifth round of the abbreviated 2020 draft out of Biloxi High School in Mississippi. He was a shortstop in high school, and committed to Arizona State, but switched to second base and third base in the minor leagues. "Colt has done everything we've asked of him during his young career," Tigers president of baseball operations Scott Harris said in a statement, "improving all facets of his game and asserting himself as one of the sport's most promising young players. This contract demonstrates our faith in Colt and this organization's commitment to acquire, develop and retain young talent." https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2024/01/28/detroit-tigers-sign-colt-keith-to-deal-worth-up-to-82-million-9-years-contract-extension/72388149007/ Another thing to consider is fifth round draft picks never get massive extension offers...at least not until now...they face FAR more criticism and scrutiny than first rounders ever do within an organization. Colt Keith thinks like Conor McGregor, plays like Joey Votto, looks like Detroit Tigers' best prospect. It's a lesson learned from his father. Colt Keith tries to simplify everything about his game. can't link to this Detroit Free Press article because I'm not a subscriber.
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Tigers sign Colt Keith to a 6 year extension
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39409250/tigers-sign-infield-prospect-colt-keith-6-year-286m-deal His deal includes three team options that could make it worth $64 million over nine seasons, and the Tigers said there are escalators that increase the value to $82 million over nine years. A left-handed-hitting third baseman and second baseman, Keith is from Zanesville, Ohio, and was a fifth-round pick in the 2020 amateur draft out of Biloxi High School in Mississippi. The Milwaukee Brewers agreed last month to an eight-year, $82 million contract with 19-year-old outfielder Jackson Chourio, the largest contract for a prospect with no major league service.
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Tigers sign Colt Keith to a 6 year extension
I remember Salvador Perez signing something like $7 million for 5 years...that was one of the worst of all-time, but understandable for some families in the Caribbean. And that was after he had already proved his worth at the major league level, albeit briefly. The Royals later ripped it up and gave him a much more commensurate deal. Monday, Jan. 25. In 2012, the Royals signed Perez to what became one of the most team-friendly contracts in baseball. He'll earn $7 million through the first five years, and after that, he has three club-option years worth a combined $14.75 million, per Baseball-Reference.com.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
When it comes to the odds, the 49ers opened as 3-point favorites over the Chiefs. That number has moved quickly as San Francisco is currently between a 1.5-point to 2-point favorite at multiple sportsbooks.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
The 49ers will be slight favorites and he has thrived on the underdog role against Buffalo and Baltimore. Just more fuel for the fire. Every other ad will be Mahomes, Kelce or Swift, lol. Usher is going to get buried under the Swifties. Certainly they will have her sing a duet with him...they can't let the opportunity pass them by.
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Tigers sign Colt Keith to a 6 year extension
At only 20 years old, he was hitting .301 with nine home runs at High-A West Michigan before injuring his shoulder last week. Keith’s injury won’t require surgery, but he will miss a significant amount of time. The Tigers hope he can return at some point this year, perhaps in the Arizona Fall League. Garko: It’s definitely tough just because of the year he was having. Age-to-league is sort of the number we always talk about. He’s 20 years old, and he really was dominating that league as one of the youngest players in the league. It’s a setback. It’s something he’s gonna have to work through. But I think the bat at that age, that high of a league, is definitely something we’re really excited about. It’s a real left-handed bat. Where he’ll play in the field (2B or 3B), we’ll see. He also was getting much, much better at third base, which was as exciting to see as the offensive numbers. theathletic.com Injuries (maybe something only he knows about) might be somewhere in the back of his mind. Obviously he has had to pass a physical recently for the Tigers. Also, he has to have noticed all the Tigers' pitching prospects going down to injury and both Greene and Torkelson struggling in different ways their first two years in the majors as well.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
I'm not as clever as Greg or Ron, lol...or SportsGuy. No Profiles in Courage awards for me. Long live Josh Outman! If this gets to 591 like one of my Ohtani threads this offseason, I will be pretty shocked. Almost as shocked as Lions' fans are right now.
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Outside the Box: Trade Cease+ for Daulton Varsho+
Exactly like Hahn as a GM. Risk-averse and risk-mitigation. That's why KW was so much better than him, for that reason alone...Hahn going with all those overpriced over-the-hill veterans instead of having the balls to invest that money into one solitary star player like a Harper or Machado. That same strategy with the Angels/Moreno/Trout/Ohtani or what happened with the Padres/Mets last season serves as a perfect alibi for JR never to take a significant risk again. Or he can simply argue look what would have happened had they signed Giolito, Anderson, Kopech, Vaughn, etc., to an extension.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
Campbell has really lost his mind leaving those 6 points on the field. Especially not kicking for the tie just now.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
Well, this is pretty much a complete collapse...although DET was playing with house money. Their team is still one year away, but they almost pulled it off. Saw this same show last week with the GB game.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
Iowa alum....I hate Michigan, lol. And now it's back to game on...not kicking the field goal (not a surprise if you follow Campbell's career) and then that ball bouncing the wrong way. Wouldn't be too comfortable as a Detroit fan at this point. Gut check time.