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That's what the Oklahoma Song Bird is all about boys! Love it and there's plenty more s*** to come. I actually told my physical therapist ( who hates LaRoche since he always slaughtered his Dodgers ) that I wanted him on the Sox. The therapist responded, "you know your baseball - he's a great piece on a winning team... But I hate him too much to ever want him in dodger Blue."

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) I hear ya. I'm interested to see what happens on December 2 with non-tenders, but pitchers and catchers don't report for three months. Plenty o' time. Oh, the agony. I'm off to continue my studies of the Oklahoma Song Bird.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) everything on this front seems to have died down. anyone heard anything? The Oklahoma native Song Bird likes to clean it's young hatchlings by brushing s*** all over its feathers. Specifically, this ritualistic event takes place in the winter months and blood stained s*** is commonly refered to as the best available s*** for cleaning purposes. One should note that the Oklahoma Song Bird is eight feet high when standing on its hind legs. Residents living around their nests have been warned by the CDC to wear hasmat suits while outside.

Is it December 8th yet? Wake me up then please.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) http://grantland.com/features/mlb-transaction-trees/ Really cool piece on long trade trees for each MLB team. Flowers is our oldest. Starting with Lee being traded for Vizcaino who then went with Chris Young and Orlando Hernandez to Arizona for Javy Vazquez who gave us flowers. Some in here (the D-backs) are really intriguing. It also showed me that there was another Adam Eaton in baseball back in the 90s.

QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:53 AM) Let's get real the President of the United State of America is one of us... Let's just take some of the federal taxes collected each year and pump that into our payroll. You're funny. Post more. Oh, and welcome. May we share many poops together.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 10:56 PM) Which means you can essentially forget about any of the "premium" free agents in the top 10-20, and that probably includes Melky Cabrera. I read his statement of outbidding a little differently: As in if they have a set price that is offered and it's tops - the same lash happens... If another team ups our offer and a bidding war is beginning to form - it's peace out. No water for us then. - Kenny Williams

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 09:54 PM) Id keep an eye on one of those guys that are free agents next year as well. There are a few that fit with what they are trying to do. Right on man. Hit me up some time PM style - lets talk shop about the little ones.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) A little. I'm a way behind on PM's and I'm hoping to get a chance to do a summary. Lots of action for sure. The sox are trying to get better in probably four positions. Hit me with a summary of anything you know and feel comfortable sharing - por favor. Cheers Daddy-O.

The number "32" is a kiss of death and should have been retired to the white sox hall of shame... Never to be worn again... Ever... By any circumstance... Ever.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:09 AM) Wouldn't 10-12" be more ideal? Lyle Mouton. You've gotta improve what you've got in the realm of baseless fantasy. The thing with fantasy thou - it never pans out in reality. Meaning, every woman would then be scared for me in an eternity and thus I'd be regulated to mainly anal escapades. Akin to that Johna Falco fellow. What the f*** happened?

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 06:01 AM) ahhh me don't understand. explain pls. Priceless.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 07:07 AM) It shouldn't for a ton of reasons, namely the fact that it's 20 innings. Jose Quintana had a 4.58 ERA and 1.36 WHIP in 35.1 IP in August, but your uh-oh meter didn't go off then. That's almost twice as big of a sample size. That's comparing apples to oranges buddy. 20 IP for an arm in the pen could represent over 25 percent of a season where as 20 IP for a starting pitcher idealy is only a 10 percent or less sample size.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 03:58 PM) The best scenario would be the Sox starters are good enough that Rodon can stay in the minors all season and get called up in September. He can enjoy watching the 2015 Sox in the World Series and then join the rotation in spring 2016. You're absolutely correct. And the best scenario for hi8is for 2015 would be waking up to a doctor telling me I've been the first human ever to be medically gifted an eternal life, that I now have a fifteen inch penis, and that anytime I say the word "poop" a million dollars will be deposited into my bank account. Poop. You catch my drift, sonny?

Long time supporter of Tank here and even I've had enough. Started wanting him gone at the deadline of 2013 and all out gave up at the deadline in 2014. -Yoda

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 09:50 PM) I ... think there's better options/ideas out there that should be explored first. Such as....?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 12:28 AM) Doc Holladay...where are you? Hamels, Cliff Lee, Buchanan, Jerome Williams and Miguel Angel Gonzalez/Pettitbone. That's a big mess from the 3rd starter on, and Lee hasn't been healthy, either. Papelbon for Danks makes SOME sense, although I can't believe that would be much of a rotation solution for the Phillies, either. Phil Rodgers actually hits the entire article dead on IMO. 5 Things the Sox Should Do Next

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) Fielding Independent Pitching. It attempts to strip away a team's individual defensive effects (in other words, the defense makes a Royals pitcher better than he actually is, or makes a White Sox pitcher look worse) and forecast what that player would do in a completely neutral context setting. Thanks for the conceptual understanding - now can you give me idea who it's use apples numerically in the practical example of Dukes 2014 season splits ( 1.76 vs 2.72 ).... Or whatever the numbers where.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 08:24 PM) It would cost a lot less. Seriously though, Danks needs to be out of the equation IMO, even if they have to eat quite a bit of salary. Your plan is a good one for the rotation. Of course it's a good plan - I'm a White Sox fan with moderate functional OCD. It's the offseason and all there is at the moment is refresh Soxtalk / MLB Trade Rumors about 500 times a day. What else did you expect - Some diluted poop from me?

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 08:17 PM) Hey fun with selective endpoints! His 2nd half xFIP was 2.76 his 1st half was 1.72. He was pretty damn good in both. The big difference? His strand rate went from 90.5 in the 1st and to 59.5 in the 2nd half, that and he walked a few more guys. He had a very good year overall, splitting it up is fairly useless for such a small sample already. He only pitched 20.2 after the ASB. It's a fine signing I have no idea how anyone could be against it. They have money to spend and the pen was awful. This move hardly breaks the bank for additional signings. I'd say that 20 innings is somewhat important when talking about a relivers second half. It raises my "uh-oh" meter. This is coming from a guy who knows not what xFIP means, so please do enlighten me.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) Or, we could put Danks in the pen and teach him how to throw sidearm. Or, we could sign a clown from the circus and teach him how to throw a cutter.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 05:41 PM) Yes the sox have a bunch of 5th starter type option. For the sox to compete they only need to have one as the 5th starter. that means they need to get 2 more starters. I'm not saying the sox shouldn't try to upgrade from danks but if he is stuck on the team hes not the worst pitcher in the world. if he puts up the numbers of 2014 or better then hes not going to kill the sox. whats going to kill them is having a bunch of 5th starter types. Im sure the sox would like to unload danks but if it was easy to do then they would have done it already. so im guessing the would have to eat a good amount of the contract and they dont usually do that. i really dont like the idea of swapping the one bad contract for another. If it was for 2 years like danks and possibly got us something we were missing then fine but more years on the other contract means more time stuck with it. Sale Qunitana RHSP FA Rodon ( after 6 weeks ) Noesi That's ideal for me and obviously it requires trading Danks... Which I think is a hot topic on Rick's cell phone right now. Fingers crossed.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/534819841065377793 Checked in on Laroche Ha.

Ken Rosenthal reporting that we've "checked in" on LaRoche... since that was just posted on MLBTR - I'm sure it'll be posted in like 15 threads now.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 17, 2014 -> 04:28 PM) Was really hoping to see a post by Rock or Bucket in this thread. They have both been disturbingly silent so far this offseason. You didn't read yesterday's obituaries, obviously.