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A thread to talk about trade / signing ideas leading up to the winter meetings on December 8th. My crazy, wild, and wonderful ideas... 1.) Trade Quintana to the Braves for Justin Upton and Evan Gattis 2.) Sign Upton to an extension 3.) Trade Danks in any move that returns little prospects but some salary relief 4.) Sign Jon Lester 5.) Sign Jake Peavy 6.) Sign Luke Gregorson 7.) Trade Vicedo for minor leauge marbles Rotation: Sale Peavy Lester Noesi Rodon Lineup: Eaton ( CF ) Rameriz ( SS ) Abreu ( 1B / DH ) LaRoche ( 1B / DH ) Upton ( LF ) Galipse ( 3B ) Garcia ( RF ) Gattis ( C ) Simen ( 2B ) Bullpen: Gregorson Duke Petricka Guerra Putnam Webb Surkamp / Garcia Bassit ( 5th starter until Rodon is up ) Bench: Flowers Garcia Sanchez Shuck One of the bench players is sent down when Rodon is called up. Yes - this is completely insane and losing Jose hurts but hell - with that roster I'm f***ing dreaming again... Kenny. Oh, by the way Rick... If you want my help you can buy me out of my company, move me to Chicago, and I'll get to work. My salary requirements are only 25 million spread out across a 6 year term. My desk better have a floor to ceiling window overlooking home plate. Your turn... Crazy, wild, wonderful... GO!

Someone on Twitter noticed LaRoche looks like a musician in heavy metal band Dillenger Escape Project... Or something like that. http://twitter.com/tommyc325/status/537078...8505473/photo/1

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 05:21 AM) a good and rational post. good facts. Secondary sections of concrete align side by side to become a path.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 04:45 AM) LSD Lots and lots and lots of it with heaping loads of fear pumped into me as well. Clockwork Orange style... "TRADE SALE OR DIE!!!!"

From a MLB.com article on the Red Sox site is this silly reference: So, since we're likely headed for over a week long lull - what would it take for Boston to entice YOU to trade Sale?

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 03:42 PM) 1. Trade Alexei Ramirez to the Dodgers for Matt Kemp, Scott Schebler and $12M cash; 4. Swap contracts with the Phillies - Danks for Papelbon Pass what you're smoking this way, man.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 09:23 PM) You know who really mashes lefties in our system, and might be the best platoon partner for ALaR? None other than Mr. Gordita Crunchella himself. I personally thought he should have spent some time in Charlotte last year, putting him on an earlier arrival track. How's he doing in winter ball? I want Tank gone mainly because he can't be played in the OF, but also because he'll be relatively uncheap, given the dearth of AB's he 'll get DHing vs. LHP - can't see it really increasing future value or fostering growth. Ravioli is yummy.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) Do you know who Andy the Clown is? Before my time and looks like I've been ignorantly disrespecting a legend. You're a poor representation of an icon, my man.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 11:47 AM) Hi8is is the guy set on being being associated with "poop" and "defecating", keep your expectations low. You shoulda seen the associations back in 2004 while I was drinking still. Now it's all in fun before it was just plain nonsensical madness. All and all - it's in fun... s*** all over the clown man.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 11:34 AM) You've been all over me lately. So because I project LaRoche to perform slightly worse than his Steamer projection I've lost all credibility? Come on -- I thought you were better than that. I just don't like you, clown. This is some Batman s*** going down. I am the dark avenger and you will be crushed.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 22, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) And SEMIEN goddammit. SEMIEN. You've lost all credibility - long ago... So even if I agree with something you say... It's just ignored now... Clown.

Damn he's looking older. Funny stuff.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:38 PM) I think another possibility for the Sox next move could Edinson Volquez. He's right handed, can slot in as a #3, looking for a 2-3 year deal at around 9-10M annually. Would leave the Sox with money to spend elsewhere. If somehow Hahn was able to deal Danks, were looking at a rotation of Sale, Q, Volquez, Rodon and Noesi with Bassitt as the #6 long man in the pen. Not too shabby. That would be nice indeed.... But a gamble. There might be a better RHSP option for us in the cards.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:14 PM) you mean like the career .510 slg that Dunn had before coming to the cell. If LaRoche is Dunn part 2 - I'll probably vomit in the clown guys shoes. It's highly unlikely he has such a HISTORICALLY HORRID first year with the sox like Dunn. Throwing that year out - Dunn slugged over .430 with us in his other years. I understand the fear with this being Dunn part two but they're totally different offensive players for their careers. Look at the strike outs for example.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:12 PM) So be it. Good luck to you sir. I hope I'm wrong and made to play the...Clown. Check it... Reading material for while you're on the pot.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 10:00 PM) Ok. You're on. My entrance into this madness needs to also have one disclosure - no matter what happens - at some point in 2015 my signature will make reference to you... Clown.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:47 PM) Would you like to make a low stakes Internet bet? I bet you that LaRoche slugs lower than .430 next year. Care to try it? If I lose, I'll change my avatar to the picture above. If you lose, you'll admit that you're a good for nothing troll. What do you think? A career.470+ slg player in the cell... Um... Yea, I'll take that bet man.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) Melky Cabrera wRC+ by season: 2006, 130 games - 98 wRC+ 2007, 150 games - 89 wRC+ 2008, 129 games - 68 wRC+ 2009, 154 games - 94 wRC+ 2010, 147 games - 77 wRC+ 2011, 155 games - 118 wRC+ 2012, 113 games - 151 wRC+ 2013, 88 games - 86 wRC+ 2014, 139 games - 125 wRC+ So, he was a rich man's Gordon Beckham for about 5 seasons. Then he becomes Alejandro De Aza. Then, well, we know what happened in 2012. Then he plays like s***. Then he plays pretty well last year. I think we can toss out 2012, since he was unambiguously on steroids. This definitely casts doubt on what was going on with his improvement in 2011, but who knows about that. He had an injury-riddled, crap season in 2013 after the steroid suspension. He played well last year, with an ISO at a level he has only had previously in 2011 and 2012. To me, you're taking a big risk on a guy like that. Either way, there's no sense in freaking out about us getting LaRoche as if that has any real bearing on a possible Cabrera acquisition. I particularly don't want to give up a draft pick to sign Melky Cabrera, and we didn't have to do that with LaRoche. That was actually a post that changed my mind about Cabrera... Before I was on the fence and now I'm off it. Pass - better options will come to pass.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 08:55 PM) Melky will end up making about 3-4 million more per year than LaRoche. It's worth that extra money to get a decent f***ing player. But your previous posts tell me that I might as well be talking to a rock... And I don't mean Raines. HONK. Let's keep the clown discourse for our lovely exchanges on clowntalk.com.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) Allow me to be frustrated with the LaRoche signing for Christ's sake. Poop man... just poop. You'll feel better.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 07:45 PM) Good things said here... To which I offer this response: Preach on Brother.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) 1) Sit on their asses 2) Add middling bullpen piece 3) Sit on their asses 4) Offer Viciedo arbitration 5) Sit on their asses 6) Decide to trade Alexei after other teams no longer have a need for him s***... You're such a f***ing clown. Get off your pot, man. poop.

Next, I will defecate.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 06:52 PM) Is Tank even movable in a power-starved market? I guess we'll know soon enough. Hopefully it'll either be he's moved for someone or he's moved out the door for a cool few million dollars of savings... DFA style.

Hacking Hahn's cell phone really has paid off so far.