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Dodgers get Lilly and The Riot - now it's time to figure out how we can help them get to the playoffs if we want to get Manny. I like the idea of taking Manny but don't think it will happen.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 06:09 PM) you keep repeating this. we know His nick name is, Mr. Pessimism.... It's a pretty good preamble to a pessimistic statement. =)

Who do we have which we could give the Dodgers - that would allow them to get better in their chances for right now? They want to make the playoffs and are making a push to get better. They'd also have some explaining to do from a PR perspective if they traded manny.

QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 06:02 PM) Luke Scott anyone? Sounds like Baltimore is asking for Flowers and Vicedo for Scott and we're saying vomit.

QUOTE (pktmotion @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) Let's just go back to AZ and say" listen we threw you a huge bone with Hudson, What's it gonna take to get LaRoche""and don't you dare say Viciedo/Beckham/Flowers/Morel". A couple of mid level arms: Torres+Cassell. Wouldn't doubt it at all

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) I think the chances are good that he could be traded in August. It just makes much more sense for them to wait, unless they are given a very good prospect to encourage them to trade him today. The that. =)

Gammons on MLB Network flat out,

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) A last minute call to Rizzo doesn't give us an opportunity to deal for another starter if EJax is dealt. Unless they already have a secondary move in place -- or are content picking up some 5th starter fodder on a waiver deal

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:39 PM) Flowers+Morel or pitching for Manny and his salary. yucky like baby doo doo in a brown diper

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:31 PM) can we safely say nothing will happen by the deadline? absolutely not.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:30 PM) Well, they've got 90 minutes to decide their finances. 90 minutes? you mean 2 hours 33 minutes. =)

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:27 PM) #mlb #dodgers #white sox The White Sox have yet to even hear a counter-offer from Dodgers on Manny, let alone engage in talks. WS moving on. Looks like we're not getting him. i'm like a gun slinger in the west - one who does not however, want to kill people or advocate death of GM's whose name end with "O"

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) Kenny really f***ed up this deadline. He had no back up plan for Dunn... Lies.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) Isn't it worth taking? What about this question... Is Manny ( and his risk ) better than LaRoche? To answer your question... If it is Manny or nothing - yes. Of course, it's well worth the risk.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) I have a feeling you're underestimating how crazy Rizzo is. I believe he has been said to be a cocksuker. Not in a homosexual sense - more along the derogatory line. Cocksucker.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:55 PM) Frankly, I don't want a juicer on my team. That said...he's not going to play the rest of the season without at least 1 more DL trip and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. There's a legit chance he comes back out, runs the bases any day, and then misses the rest of the season because of it. Why is he on the DL?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:51 PM) Let's note 1 thing...Manny's had a total of 220 PA's this season. Mark Kotsay has 253. Mark Kotsay has played a lot more than Manny Ramirez. 8 games is a lot?

QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) you are supposed to use a green font for those types of posts. you are supposed to wipe and flush.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:43 PM) ZiPS projects a .924 OPS the rest of the way for Manny. Yummy like the ice cream!

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 31, 2010 -> 04:41 PM) i actually went to fangraphs to look this up and then I read the post again. I’m an idiot. Gotta love being loopey at the deadline! =)