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QUOTE (oldsox @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) My glass is half empty on Dunn. He strikes out about 40% of the time and is barely hitting .200. At least he doesn't clog up the bases. We gave up a lot of money and a #1 draft pick this year. This will go down as one of Kenny's worst moves, I believe. I'm telling you - all we need is for April first to roll around and for the sox to run off a nice winning streak to start the year. It'll shut all these people up.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) Yeah, I believe I was watching MLB Network where they always show the rankings in the background and JFP was like 3rd in the AL in strikeouts prior to that start. Yea - but he sucks. Always has sucked, always will suck, and will never again be healthy - now that we've heard about a sore rotator cuff - it is over. He's a glass piece of s*** ass hole.

QUOTE (Tex @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 05:57 PM) There are people that find flaws in everything enjoy your lives. Yep - no need in heeding the words of insensate pessimism.

Ah yes, some spring training baseball to watch! Go SOX!

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 02:22 AM) True, you don't need to have faith, but until he does something to prove that he's not serviceable, there's no reason to repeatedly s*** all over the guy. I really like the ignore feature on soxtalk but i wish it would remove their threads whenever someone is replying to them... as was the case here with Heads... Since you reply to the guy - I have to read his nonsense. Well, actually - not read - just denote as unworthy and move on from.

All of this stuff really is bringing people's true colors out. It makes it much easier to decide who will be ignored and who will not be ignored.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 08:08 PM) yes, radio what station ginger?

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 08:29 PM) Just wait and see, I suppose. No use playing any other game at this point. ;P

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 06:47 PM) One step closer: After throwing today, Peavy says he feels drastically better and is encouraged. Could throw a bit more tomorrow .#whitesox

Anyone know if this is being broadcast on the radio anywhere over the net?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 05:18 AM) Like somebody said, we need Freddy about now. Sucks that he's gone. I wonder if we could make some minor deal with somebody to get a Bruce Chen type guy (not Chen, but somebody like him). Any guys out there still unsigned? You don't think Humbler will be adequate for two starts in April before Jake comes back in May?

Yup - someone's not telling the truth. I just want him to pitch and pitch well - when that happens, all of this will be for not.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 04:47 AM) Bases loaded, nobody out... Teahen lines out softly to ss Flowers strikes out after being 2-0. McPherson strikes out on 3 pitches. Good times. Good thing none of those guys will have significant playing time in 2011!

PEORIA, Ariz. -- Jake Peavy wanted to make one point perfectly clear on Monday night before the White Sox contest with the Padres. Yes, the intense competitor that is Peavy wants to take the ball every five days, and of course, he wants to do anything possible to help the White Sox win the American League Central and move a few postseason steps beyond. Peavy also wanted to stay on schedule to break camp as the team's fifth starter, completing his remarkable comeback from experimental surgery on July 14 to reattach the tendon that anchors the latissimus dorsi muscle to the rear of Peavy's shoulder But while Peavy realizes the final call involves his input, it ultimately comes from White Sox general manager Ken Williams, manager Ozzie Guillen, pitching coach Don Cooper, head athletic trainer Herm Schneider and the team's medical staff. So reports of Peavy convincing Guillen or even begging the manager to let him pitch through shoulder discomfort on Saturday against the A's, after Peavy had been crushed all week by the flu and missed work between starts, were a bit overblown, in the hurler's opinion. "Ozzie and the staff have had complete control from the start," Peavy said. "I didn't beg, I didn't ask. I let those guys make the decision -- Coop, Herm and Ozzie. "They obviously know I wanted to pitch and stay on schedule. They've known that from Day 1. I certainly didn't, as it was portrayed in certain situations, try to beg to get out there. I told them I'd do whatever they wanted me to do as a staff News of this Peavy shoulder discomfort, labeled as rotator cuff tendinitis, took Guillen a bit by surprise when he read Monday how the pain started with Peavy's first Cactus League start against the Angels on March 4 and built up from there. Yet, Guillen didn't show any anger toward Peavy concerning his push to stay on track for the regular season. Guillen's Sunday quote about Peavy pitching again when he tells him he'll pitch might have sounded like a bit of displeasure toward the rehabbing hurler. But with a smile, Guillen pointed out how it's easy to tell when he's angry because he curses. There were no R-rated words used by Guillen when talking about Peavy Sunday or Monday. It was just a protective instinct shown by a manager toward a player coming back from major surgery. "If I was mad at Peavy, I will call him," Guillen said. "I did it before. Not to him but to a lot of players. I was very excited because he pitched for us. He had work to do. "I was not demanding that while he was on the mound, I'm the boss. I don't treat any of the players, anybody, like I'm the boss. I just say it's my job to make the decision when somebody is out there. If I have some problem with anyone, I will tell him to his face. But I don't have a problem with anybody. "It's just protecting [White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf's] money, Kenny's move and my integrity in the game," Guillen said. "And protecting him. That's the most important thing. I'm protecting him more than anybody in baseball. It's all about him, it's not about us." One piece of good news presented Monday by Peavy centered on that nasty week-long flu bug seemingly running its course. An update concerning Peavy's right shoulder held a bit more uncertainty. Peavy's plan for Monday was to get a couple hours of solid treatment on the expected blip plaguing his comeback. He already has started on a course of anti-inflammatory medication, and was examined Sunday by White Sox team doctor Charles Bush-Joseph. Dr. Anthony A. Romeo, who performed the July surgery on Peavy, will check out the hurler in Arizona on Wednesday, with Peavy interested to get Romeo's take since the doctor knows his shoulder "inside and out." Basically, Peavy will be out of action for 48 hours and will be replaced by Philip Humber for Thursday afternoon's start against the Cubs at HoHoKam Park in Mesa, Ariz. There's no timetable for Peavy's return, although Guillen guessed Peavy would miss three or four regular-season starts and return some time in the second half of April. In talking about his strong desire to take the mound and work through what he believed were manageable problems, Peavy admitted a certain level of smartness is needed to know when to pull back. He took some heat in 2010 when pitching through shoulder inflammation and throwing a shutout against the Nationals on June 19, after skipping a start against the Pirates on that same Interleague road trip, and then suffering the lat injury 2 1/2 weeks later. "As a competitor, you want to play, you want to pitch. At the same time, you got to be smart and mindful and make good decisions," Peavy said. "I'm certainly going to try to do a better job than I did last year. "When I do go out and pitch and get on a Major League field, I'm going to be healthy and not go out anymore like I have for the past two years and piece it together and get through. It's not fair to myself or the team, certainly not the guy the White Sox thought they were trading for. "So I want to get healthy and do my thing, but I'm going to be smart. But I've been honest with you guys and those guys ever since I walked into camp, and they got complete control of the situation from Ozzie to Herm to Coop, and those guys make the decision that every process and step I've taken. I've put my input in, and that's that."

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 02:13 AM) Ozzie thinks he'll be back at the end of April. Nice - some actual information that is founded in reason! Let the productive discussion continue.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 11:35 PM) Hey. How do you use the ignore feature? I want to activate it for EXACTLY the same reason as you. That act is so tired... You go into a users profile and within that area is an ignore feature. Look for something like this: https://skitch.com/trevorcaesar/rih34/whtso...viewing-profile

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 11:16 PM) Peavy is a bust. Thus far

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) If I turn out to be wrong, so be it. But the odds that I'm wrong are pretty low. Like really low. You and I are worlds apart - enjoy the season Jordan - there's no use in me reading your posts from here on out =P *edit - this ignore feature is pretty cool, I suggest it's use to all members of this board. ( should you ever find something repeatedly annoying. )*

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) The Sox will have to do this thing without Peavy. Before making harsh judgments like that which not are based in reason - step back and cool down a bit. Peavy will be back and he will contribute to the 2011 White Sox. Nothing we have heard indicates else-wise. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) Humber is an insult and unacceptable as a 5th starter solution in the AL. Have you seen Humber pitch this spring? He's actually looking very good. Also, do you remember that he is a former 1st round pick? Also, did you hear that he has added a cutter? Also, have you failed to read that Cooper likes this kid? Remember last time Cooper got a former first round pick? ( Floyd and Thornton ) Remember last time a starter came under Coopers wing armed with a newly discovered cutter? ( Loizia ) It seems like your the boards new resident pessimist Jordan...

I think that what Cooper is disclosing here is as such: After the surgery - the Sox front office set an internal goal of having Peavy back for the playoffs. They where leaps and bounds ahead of that goal - seeming that he threw 86 pitches in his 4th spring trainning start before they shut him down. Now they're going back to strengthening programs and he'll be back sometime when his body is 100%.

QUOTE (BFirebird @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) One thing interesting he said..which is not a good sign if taken literal. He said that they have to go back to square 1 with Jake, get him ready for 1st round of the playoffs. Pretty much he said they are unsure of where the injury will take Peavy from here. How else can this be taken? I don't understand why Cooper would say something like this if we were talking just straight tendinitis...hummm

I think we need to wait another 48 hours before making any heated comments or paying heed to either point of view.

Johnny on the spot with that Ptatc - thanks for being a voice of reason.

Where's the good resident doctor when he's needed?

Wasn't able to watch the game but it is FANTASTIC news that Jake was hitting 94 and that he threw 67!