lostfan

Not sure why I did this but I just looked up 2 Girls 1 Cup and watched it again. I completely forgot how horrifying it was.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 10:48 PM) ok? What are you trying to say here? And I also think that you have to give Obama an assist on the upward tick as they didn't do anything without him knowing about it. More or less the same thing I was trying to say in the Dem thread I imagine.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 10:41 PM) Isn't that basically what Reagan did? Yeah, pretty much.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 10:47 PM) Spending is bad when you spend like there's no tomorrow and you don't have the money to pay for it. The 800 lb. gorilla waiting is health care and other social programs that have no way in hell to pay for it. If you want programs like that, you better cut some spending somewhere else. Obama is like a kid in the candy store who will shoplift anything "to fix all that ails", neverminding the fact that sometime, somehow you have to pay for all this. I also think it's interesting to note: one of the bigger reasons that 1930's were also different is that you had people paying us (Europe, see WWI), well, until everyone defaulted. Funny how no one else around the world wants to spend their way out of a recession. Kind of beside the point I was making. Lower taxes + reduced spending = good Lower taxes + same basic budget as a Democrat - a couple of earmarks for the day's news cycle = destructive, hypocritical, borderline retarded Today's GOP leans much closer to the second (even if they swear they don't) than the first. And actually has for pretty much my whole life.

Also: spending is bad if you raise taxes to pay for it, but ok if you lower taxes without lowering spending and create a gaping hole in the deficit. Until a Democrat takes over, then the actual cause of the deficit is irrelevant.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 08:28 PM) Deweeezy blew off all the racism talk, he's just glad he doesn't play on the Northside. And he was hurt by the boos, but knows it was just fanboys who collect Anderson's underwear. Once they figure out the truth about Brian, Deweezy will be making his revenge tour on the Southside. Those who doubted him will be shamed. And Pods better than Wise? Thats pathetic, especially by those who arguing like hell that they actually cared about defense. Ah, I get it now. You are DeWayne Wise. All right DeWayne, to be clear, actually like you, and I like having you on the 25-man roster. I just didn't like having you start in CF and leading off and I think you're a better player coming off the bench. Sorry for the misconception.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) I'll throw something out there... North Korea is not run amok with religious extremists or anything like that, and I think they'd recover relatively quickly under decent leadership. So I'll say it. I think they are a good candidate for a CIA-assisted coup d'etat. Thoughts? I think if we could've done that we already would have.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 04:40 PM) Yes, I did. You must not have read the Clarence Thomas dishwashing thread. I'm not seeing it, I saw a former cop and a lawyer give opinions and people just kind of went "ah, I get it".

Try www.makinghomeaffordable.gov

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1868902

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) they're not as scary as Cuba though Cuba is a proud member of the Axis of Unpleasantness.

god I hate north korea.

Lesson learned for today: Kill Whitey

lol this is what I was talking about when I posted in the GOP thread.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:44 PM) He gets cheers? lol right. Are we all watching the same games? He gets cheers when he gets extra-base hits, thats about it.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:41 PM) When Brian Anderson steps up to bat...what do people hear? I have to say it's a cheer that's just a little disproportionate to his achievements here. He's a great defensive player. Wise has gotten RBI's in a division race and playoffs. If all was perfectly earned, it should be crickets for both of them when they step up though. I pretty much hear the same thing as when any other Sox player comes up to bat. When he strikes out sometimes I hear exasperated sighs.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Are you saying we could compare Adam Jones to BA, or Adam Jones to Wise? Adam Jones was the centerpiece of the Bedard trade...and was even more highly-regarded than Anderson. Personally, I don't think he would be booed in Chicago...had we traded Buehrle for him, until at least 3-4 months into the season. The issue here is that Anderson is not so tremendously/clearly/quantifiably BETTER than either Wise or Owens in any respect but defensively...and yet Anderson wouldn't receive nearly the level of booing (and we can say it was all for Ozzie and KW, fine), especially had he failed on 3 bunt attempts. I also don't remember Crede ever being booed as loudly as Wise was, despite extended periods of non-performance/K's and flares to 2B/RF...the fact that it was only the first or second game of the season, that's the thing that doesn't make sense to me. It's not like we are a sure-fire contender for the World Series. Are the expectations so high in Chicago that we're now like the Braves, Yankees, Angels and Red Sox fans? Or, how about this, has a player in only the first or second game of the season ever been so roundly booed in St. Louis? We're booing KW and Ozzie because they won a World Series championship and because we've had the most successful franchise since 1990 of every team but the Yankees, Braves and Red Sox??? A certain segment of the fanbase still feels there is potential for BA to improve based on things that have already been stated in this thread (and ad nauseam since the 2007 offseason). You clearly do not agree and don't see why he gets leeway. Really it's this simple. There is no need to try and add other factors into it where there aren't any. The point of bringing up Adam Jones was to show that Sox fans are able to tell the difference between two players.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) Half of David Price 2 months from now and Edwin Jackson. Is Jeremy Guthrie part black? That's about it. If you expand to relievers you'll get a few more like Darren Oliver and Arthur Rhodes. And as for Adam Jones, they'd let him be seeing as how he's incredibly talented and still very young. Part A: you and your baseball encyclopedia mind don't count Part B: Pretty much the answer I was going for

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) You're absolutely right. I mean Alexei has earned some good will too on this very team. But I just think Getz and Wise is the perfect comparison because one guy took over for the other the next day. And then proceeded to fail. Getz hasnt done anything for the Sox org, Wise had clutch RBIs last season. I'd like to think the fans know Wise isnt an ideal leadoff hitter, but I have to wonder how many of those people booing know his exact career OBP and age. Getz had like 2 games as the leadoff hitter and he's a rookie with a clean slate. Give some fans credit, they know what Wise is.

I'm going to add this though: If we were Cubs fans, this thread might actually have some weight behind it. Honestly.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) seriously, when McCain had a convention bounce he was "taking the lead" when Obama had a convention bounce, it was a convention bounce. No matter if you thought there were more favorable articles about Obama, the polling data submitted by major newspapers tried to help out mccain. Exactly. McCain's convention bounce just happened to be amplified by the unknown that was Palin at the time, and the fact that he hadn't led before. But he would've led no matter what, and come back down.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:02 PM) There really just aren't very many black baseball players to begin with. Here's a challenge for you: If I spot you CC and Dontrelle Willis (lol he doesnt really count) then name another black, non-Latin MLB SP. Also, finish this sentence: If Adam Jones was drafted/acquired by the Sox and had similar results to what he's had on the Orioles, injury included, Sox fans would _______ if he struck out 3 times on Opening Day. No one responded. mmkay. I tend to think the bolded part directly addresses why Wise was being booed or why Anderson is seen as different from Wise.

There really just aren't very many black baseball players to begin with. Here's a challenge for you: If I spot you CC and Dontrelle Willis (lol he doesnt really count) then name another black, non-Latin MLB SP. Also, finish this sentence: If Adam Jones was drafted/acquired by the Sox and had similar results to what he's had on the Orioles, injury included, Sox fans would _______ if he struck out 3 times on Opening Day.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:36 PM) You're not really responding to him with this post. There's no explanation here. He didn't respond with anything substantive because the post he was quoting was basically drivel, that's what he was trying to say.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:00 PM) I think that's why Paul Konerko gets a pass in this town. Oh s***, wait. Heh, I distinctly remember Konerko getting booed as he dipped below the Mendoza line, and I remember the thread about whether or not it was appropriate because of his status he's had until then. Fortunately Konerko's starting off hot this year (knock on wood).