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Konerko to the Dodgers for James Loney and Juan Pierre I don't really want Pierre, Loney is the prize in this deal, but they'd probably make us take some salary back with all the big contracts on this team and they really need to dump JP's salary so they can start Kemp and Ethier this next season. I think i'd also make them eat some of JP's salary, not a lot but at least a couple mil/ season left on his deal

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) ahh, 2006. That was nice. Yeah, after this terrible offseason, those memories of the tigers still make me feel warm and fuzzy.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 12:55 PM) STERRROIDS have you seen how fat he is? no way he's juicing

i'll pass on tyner and freel, neither of them are worth what we'd have to pay for them

QUOTE(BaseballNick @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 02:58 PM) Willits is going to be 27 next year so I'd say he's closer to becoming Scott Podsednik Jr. than a top lead off hitter for years to come. couldn't agree with you more. the way he played last season was a surprise to most people both inside and outside the angels organization so to say that he's got a lot of potential would be stretching it a bit. that being said, he's better than anything we've got right now so if we were to deal PK to the angels i'd hope that he would be a throw in to the deal

we've already drafted danks once, i personally think that in this case once is enough. Looking at that list one thing that i noticed was the preponderance of first basement projected in the top 10 most of whom were college players (more ready to contribute immediately) this could play into kenny being more willing to move Konerko since we have a high draft pick and several opportunities to draft Konerko's replacement, who if we pick right should be ready to contribute in short order

Nothing but respect for Big Frank

he's the reason i love the sox and even though he's moved on, i still love him only as a man can love another man

We should sign him to a one year deal with an option if he's interested. Then if he pitches well we have a trading chip at the deadline for teams looking for relief help (provided we're out of it by then which i'm assuming we will be) if he stinks then we just cut ties with him at the end of the season an move on with our lives

I got no problem moving PK, this season doesn't look too promising as it is, he's our main trading chip and there are definitely teams out there looking to upgrade at 1b like the angels and giants (maybe even the mariners) Lets do it, get younger, more athletic and cheaper

I've been saying that we need to platoon Owens and Anderson since the free agency period began, all the others out there have been ridiculously overpaid, I think that JO/BA can give us around league average batting and good defense. JO gives us some speed and solid D, BA gives us great D a little speed and a little power. We could do worse, like trading Gio or any other talented minor leaguer for coco crisp who would give us guess what? League average batting, a little speed, and good defense

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 09:46 PM) Has no ties to the Sox. This is a Trade Winds thread. my bad

Just one, Scott Podsednik Also, there's no way that PK or Big Hurt end up on the list. Anyone ever see Frank in his college pictures? He has always been a ridiculously large human being, if PK was using roids then he should ask for his money back by the looks of his body

Maybe we take a flyer on this guy as a backup 3B (provided we move Crede). Like the quote says he's got tons of potential, he's just had lots of injury problems. We've now got two spots open on the 40 man roster with the gonzalez/phillips non-tenders. just a thought

Sounds to me like we're about to trade minor league players for someone who's going to be on the 25 man roster, or else why keep those guys around and not protect some of the players taken in rule 5?

Both are young, both are talented, and both showed us that they have what it takes to succeed in the MLB. The question is whether or not they can do it for a full season. That being said, what is KW supposed to do? Question whether or not his guys are good enough, he's got to support them in public unwaveringly.

QUOTE(BaseballNick @ Dec 8, 2007 -> 05:26 PM) I'm sure many of us thought the Bears were locks to win the NFC North too i didn't

nobody knows how good ramirez will be, to say that he'll be better than owens or sweeny is silly because we haven't even seen him play yet, he's a totally unproven commodity at this point. as far as rowand goes, i still don't think that KW will go above 4 years to sign him, and personally i really hope that he doesn't, even then, he still will probably cost about 12 mil a season, thats a lot for a 31 yo CF who plays as recklessly as rowand

kotchman has been in the league for 3 years now and hasn't really broken out like people said he would, i'd rather have one of their other prospects included in any deal sending Konerko away

i'd rather have him as a backup to AJ then Toby Hall who provides almost no offense and not a whole hell of a lot on the defensive side either. he may be the worst backup catcher in the majors

If we could make a deal for Roberts that includes Crede as a major chip then I'd be all for it. Otherwise i'd pass on all three of them, pierre has a retarded contract and boston wants good prospects for crisp, they'd probably want someone like Gio or Broadway at least for him, just not worth it if you ask me. Honestly, I don't see Pierre or Crisp giving us much more than Jerry Owens can, plus defense, great speed, no power, and an obp in the range of .320 or so, not worth paying either 12 mil a season or giving up good prospects for what we already have essentially in JO

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Dec 7, 2007 -> 06:17 AM) Actually he's not expected to jump three levels, the Sox took him in the minor league phase. They don't have to keep him, or add him to the 40 man, nor do they run the risk of losing him back to the Astros organization. He'll be assigned to one of the minor league teams is all. he was taken in the AAA portion of the rule 5, i think that means that he has to be on our AAA roster for the season or we offer him back to the astros, i could be wrong though

i'd rather have jones for two years at 18 mil per than have hunter for five years at the same salary. that being said i think that the two of them are both grossly overpaid and considering where this sox team is at talent/age/salary wise, i'd rather just pass on the both of them, personally i'm glad that they have both signed with other teams and i'm hoping for the same with rowand, no way do we need to spend high dollars on a cf right now, especially ones that are all on the downslope of their careers

apparently 07 was just his second season of pro ball and he was just playing single-a ball. maybe he played in latin/domincan leagues before that, i'm concerned however that we just paid 12.5k to have a guy jump three levels, not sure what kw was doing on this one, hope it works out

If KW doesn't act fast to make the moves for linebrink and cabrera then those opportunities can disappear. the offseason is an imperfect process because you have other teams making moves as well which invariably effects what you can do. i'm sure that KW had a plan for this offseason and he went out and tried to do all the things that he could to execute that plan. whether or not his plan was realistic or not remains to be seen, i.e. perhaps he thought he would get Torii Hunter for 4 years 60 mil which in hindsight would've been unrealistic but he certainly didn't act too fast, you can't just wait for everything to fall into place as a GM. You have to be aggressive and proactive, sometimes it works like in 05, sometimes it doesn't