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QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:45 PM) Torri does make nice catches though. It's not his range that's bad, it's his arm. That's why his UZR is usually mediocre. IIRC, he make bad reads on balls that are not hit deep. I remember in a playoff game, I think vs. the A's, he made a dive attempt on a ball he came in on, missed it by like 2 feet, and the batter got an inside-the-park HR.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:41 PM) Was he throwing his full arsenal or was he just having a bad day? I wouldn't freak out... Bartolo Colon and Jose Contreras threw shutouts before the end of spring training last year. Look what happened. I think the fact that he threw 112 pitches is the most alarming thing, not the fact he got hit around.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) Jake Peavy vs Reds AAA team: 7 IP, 7 ER, 12 hits, 4 Ks, 1 BB 112 pitches...that deserves a wow. What, are you serious?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 04:32 PM) Is the unnamed player Torii? Jeter. But yes, Torri fits that as well.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 27, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) Officially gave up on the GG after "Death to all things flying" didn't win one. They mean absolutely nothing to me. That is what inspired me to write this. I was talking to my friend about how overrated Ichiro's spring training catch was, and how bad he probably felt when he won a GG last year, and Gutierrez did not.

1) Have you won this award before? Committee members love to take the easy route and just give the award to a player who already won it before. It is a safe pick for them because they think it justifies their pick if that person has already won it previously. 2) Do you have a nice fielding percentage? F% is the easiest fielding stat for a casual fan to understand. The committee feels if they award it to someone who has a great F%, then most fans can agree with it because it's the only stat they look at for fielding. The more knowledgeable fans who use things like UZR150, RngR, or even Range Factor and Zone Rating know the obvious faults in using F%. 3) Do you put up good offensive numbers? Most of you are probably saying, "What the hell do offensive stats have to do with a gold glove". My answer to this is "Exactly". If you are a good offensive player, then there is a much higher chance that you are a somewhat popular player, and less likely to be questioned if he wins the gold glove. If you are a pitcher winning the award, then you are probably a good pitcher as well. The committee does not want to give a gold glove to a guy who hits .220 with 3 home runs and a .280 OBP. But if you think about it, if this player is just an offensive liability, then he is more than likely plays pretty good defense or else he would not be in the league. 4) Do you make flashy plays? Home runs are sexy, and so are flashy plays. Without naming anyone specific, there is a certain player who makes Webgems a lot because of his flashy plays. Most people remember a player's defense for the special plays they make in the field. Because this certain player makes a lot of these cool looking plays, people get the false sense that he is a great defensive player. This, however, is not true at all. All the defensive metrics prove that he is historically below average on defense, with an occasional good season sprinkled in here and there, yet he continues to win gold gloves. This then gives people the reassurance that "Wow, he really MUST be a great defensive player if he makes all the those great plays and then wins a gold glove". This just fuels the problem, and loops back into the previous 3 points I talked about. There you have it. The secret formula for handing out gold gloves. These 4 ideas are also ranked of importance on this list. #1 is the most heavily weighted factor in their decision, while #4 is the last thing considered. All 4 are important to their decision, but some less so than others. Times when a Gold Glove Award IS deserved: Now, this is not 100% in all cases, but more often than not, when a player wins the gold glove for the first or second time, he is generally deserving of this award. Winning the award for the first time means that factor #1 is completely void, thus making the chances that the award is deserved much, much higher. However, after a player wins 2 or 3 times, the award generally becomes automatic again, given that that player does not have a really bad year, or a different player has an exceptional year and falls into categories #2, #3, and #4. Refer back to this note next fall when the gold gloves are handed out again, and you will not be surprised.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) You would be correct. Though some players have said they would prefer shorter ST times. Gavin Floyd was ready to go 2 weeks ago. I agree that ST should be shorter as well. Cut about a week off and start the season the last week of March.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 10:43 PM) Buehrle, Jenks and Peavy said the same thing about not caring they got shelled. What matters to them is that they feel good (health wise, mechanics, location, etc..) even after a 6 ER effort. That's why I was telling people not to get freaked out on Mark Teahen yet, who I was more or less looking at his defense at 3B more-so than his at-bats (not to mention the ridiculous bad luck he's been getting so far) I doubt Buehrle, Jenks, and Peavy all said they don't care about Spring Training. That's different then saying they don't pay attention to the results or the boxscore. But I bet you anything they care about spring training because it gives them the chance to get their work in vs. live hitting, work on certain pitches, get their arms in shape, ect. So maybe jphat misquoted him and meant to say that Freddy doesn't care about the game results (which is normal), but if not, then Freddy sounds like Brett Favre and his "I am too good for spring training/mini camp" attitude.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 10:22 PM) You can get your work in, and prepare for the regular season, without giving a damn about what happens in the game. Now not everyone is the same, but this is how the majority of people handle ST. Ok. I will just repeat myself then.... I can't imagine Sweaty Freddy is partaking in the same idea of "working on pitches" like Peavy, Buehrle, Danks, and Floyd are/might be doing. I would think he should actually be trying to hold down that #5 spot for as long as he can before Hudson snatches it away. And if that's the case, his spring numbers aren't encouraging. And the idea of "He does not give a damn about spring training" is s***ty behavior. Maybe he does not care about the boxscore (but again, he should because he has Hudson breathing down his neck), but that is different from "not giving a damn about spring training".

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 08:55 PM) 166 games? Yes. Games 163, 164, and 165 ends in a tie per Selig.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 10:12 PM) I don't think you have a real good handle on how this Spring Training thing works. Let me in on the secret then.

QUOTE (Mr. Showtime @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 08:47 PM) Greetings everyone, I just read this entire thread and like someone else had to look up what RTTS meant! The last baseball game I bought was MVP05 for PS2. I've never played any of the 2K Sports games, or the Show series. I might buy this years Show game as it looks pretty cool. I'm going to be moving soon so I'll finally be able to hook up the internet to my PS3. I've always been interested in downloading rosters for a game like this. Is it easy to do? Can you just do it online via the PS3? Or is it something where you have to download the rosters via the computer then somehow transfer it to the PS3? Sorry for asking a stupid question, just don't know how it's done. Even if I don't buy the Show, I've be interested in doing it for Madden. Thanks! EDIT: I see you can download a roster off a site like OS and save it to a USB then port it to PS3. Or I see easports does rosters for Madden that can be downloaded online. I'll have to try this out. Once you go online on The Show, there is a section called "Roster Vault". You download rosters straight on to your PS3 through the game; no need for a computer or flashdrive. You can also upload your roster for others to use as well. I personally am waiting for Knight's rosters from Operation Sports. He and his helpers are doing over 600 minor leaguers and editing other players. It's going to be fantastic, and they spend a whole month working on it. It should be released right around opening day, so only about 10 days or so left.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 09:49 PM) LOL. Freddy just doesn't care. He doesn't give 2 craps about spring training. He pretty much has said as much. Nice work ethic. Now I REALLY hope he bombs in April and we can get Hudson in their ASAP.

84-78. 2nd place behind Twins.

Finished my 2011 RTTS season with the Charlotte Knights. Reg Season + Playoffs. 31 GS, 15-4 record, 2.16 ERA, 5 CG, 5 SO, 221 IP, 200 H, 8 HR, 5 BB, 187 K, 0.93 WHIP We won the AAA championship. I went 3-0, 2 CG, 2 SO, 0.00 ERA, 24 IP, 13 H, 1 BB, 24 K, 0.58 WHIP. I had a perfect game into the 7th inning of the Championship game. I allowed a hit, and they immediately pulled me even though I was only at like 70 pitches. No idea why.

I can't imagine Sweaty Freddy is partaking in the same idea of "working on pitches" like Peavy, Buehrle, Danks, and Floyd are/might be doing. I would think he should actually be trying to hold down that #5 spot for as long as he can before Hudson snatches it away. And if that's the case, his spring numbers aren't encouraging.

Sweaty Freddy getting smacked around a little. Paulie with 2 hits. Andruw with a single.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 03:26 PM) Gavin Floyd will throw a no-hitter. Wouldn't be that bold actually. He flirts with it once every couple months.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 01:05 PM) Well, 1 of the 2 years Jeter didn't win the GG it went to Michael Young who had a -5.4 UZR/150 that season. In the 5 years that Young spent at SS he never had a positive UZR. Still, the way people around the league talk about Andrus, I think he's gonna start getting some love very soon. You didn't really here opposing managers talk up Franklyn Gutierrez last year and it showed in the voting where as now they won't shut the f*** up about Andrus, unfortunately I can't say the same for any of the other elite players that have been snubbed at other positions. Izturis should have won it IMO.

Another bold prediction I just thought of.... AJ starts the season red hot. We draft a catcher in the 1st or 2nd RD of the June draft. Kenny then trades Flowers off to acquire a big bat, and we re-sign AJ on a 2-year deal.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Mar 26, 2010 -> 08:52 AM) I would really like to agree with this, but I just don't think that he (or anyone else for that matter) has a chance until "Jeetah" retires. And that's really the problem with Gold Glove awards.

1) Andruw Jones wins CPOTY 2) Hudson finishes with the 3rd best ERA of our starters 3) White Sox will pick up a big slugger in July.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Mar 25, 2010 -> 09:42 PM) He is a tremendous defensive player. :facepalm:

And now Aaron Boone just talked up Beckham as his "Bold prediction of the year". He said Beckham is going to start his perennial run of All-star appearances and will lead the Sox in RBIs this year.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 25, 2010 -> 06:43 PM) Yeah, this isn't a case of a minor league instructor simply hyping up one of his kids. You can go to any prospect site out there and they all pretty much conclude JD is a pretty gifted CF. I am not disputing he is a great CF, but I want to see people other than his farm director, manager, or best friend saying this stuff as well.