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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) Good see Thompson and Sanchez. Wonder if Jacobs and Wilkins get added? The beat writers are all tweeting about Sanchez, Thompson, and Elmore, so that's probably it for additions today.

https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/403252792615112704 Anybody know anything about Elmore?

https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/403245225176358912 Carlos Sanchez being added. Not sure if this means he's the only one.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) He's a douchebag that handled a stressful situation terribly. Whatever. Doesn't change that fact that his lowest OPS+ ever was 131. If the Brew Crew throw in a bunch of cash and the teams stash it for the end of the deal he is going to make someone very happy. You don't get superstars at a discount for no reason and yes I understand he'll probably have a dip in production. There's a line I don't want the Sox to cross. I didn't like when they got Canseco and Manny. I don't want Braun no matter what. And yes, I'm sure we've all rooted for Sox players that juiced over the years, but I still wouldn't want the Sox to acquire players that have dirty records--especially how Braun's situation developed.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) I understand where you're coming from as a fan, but I'm continually shocked at how often people on this site value the personal likability of players over winning. I'm not judging you for it, just saying it surprises me. When it's "Konerko deserves to go out on his own terms" or "Santiago is such a great guy", I kinda eye roll those type of things. With Braun, he's a despicable human being. The Brewers gave him his money. They can keep him.

If you care about such things, MLBTR is updating all teams here as they come in... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/play...man-roster.html

Hell no. Brewers signed him. They can keep him.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 07:08 PM) Rumors! I must have them. Then they won't happen.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 06:56 PM) I have Hector going for sure....maybe De Aza and Alexei/Beckham I'll go Santiago, Beckham, and Viciedo.

Give me three guys currently on the 40-man, that played for the Sox this year, that will be on a different roster in 23 days.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/...retire-or-play/ I don't believe Konerko is still thinking about playing in 2014. He wants to play in 2014. It's just a matter of the White Sox finding out if they can trade Dunn in the next month. So they'll lie until then and say he's still thinking about it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 16, 2013 -> 09:21 AM) When you say the Sox have no room, ask yourself whose spot is he taking. Point is, if they're bringing back Konerko only because his name is Paul Konerko, that's no way to run a team. But from a selfish standpoint, if they find a way to move Dunn out of town and keep PK as a part time player, then deal. If Abreu, Dunn, and Konerko are all on the team, it's really dumb.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 16, 2013 -> 08:38 AM) Agree. Agree. I don't see why anyone would be opposed to the White Sox spending money to be average if they are still committed to their farm system. But White Sox fans find something wrong with everything. There has been several times the White Sox were expected to be average or worse and had fun seasons. The Sox don't have room for a 38-year-old who had a bad season for a 99-loss team. It's ridiculous this has dragged on this long. But if they can move Dunn and still have Konerko as a part time player, I'll take it just so I don't have to watch Dunn anymore. Hawk? He's terrible, and getting worse. I hope he gets in the Hall so maybe he'll retire. As far as getting to mediocre---we've seen how well that's worked over the last 5-6 years. No direct plan...just get some guys with track records and hope it all clicks...then it doesn't. The good news is I think Hahn is a pretty smart guy, and he'll be able to play both sides of a fielding a mediocre team for 2014 without sacrificing a rebuild for 2015 and 2016.

To sum up-- Konerko has earned the right to come back Hawk deserves to be in the Hall of Fame They'll spend money to reach a level of mediocrity because he has to watch the games.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 16, 2013 -> 08:30 AM) When did Bruce Levine jump from Espn to the score? Maybe 5-6 weeks ago. I think ESPN didn't want to renew his contract.

It's on now.

QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 11:46 AM) Why? Is he out of options? He doesnt have enough service time to be considered a financial liability (yet). Just thinking Liddi will most likely play 3B in Charlotte. I dunno, we'll find out December 2.

Not that it means a whole lot, but it probably cements Brent Morel getting non-tendered in a couple weeks.

According to a Tweet in Italian, Alex Liddi has signed with the White Sox. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/p...id=liddi-001ale

C'mon, Scot Gregor. http://bbwaa.com/13-al-cy/

QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 11:37 AM) Definite fit, not sure how he wouldn't be? 2 years left until free agency, Boras client, for a non-playoff team in the first year most likely. If the Sox are trading pieces, then it would be better to get players that are controllable for many years as they build toward being a winning team.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2013 -> 11:16 AM) Weiters has become available per Rosenthal. Has 2 years left and his agent is Boras? Do/Should Sox go after him? Good player, but not a fit for the Sox where they are right now.

All of this Konerko stuff is really bringing it home how frustrating it is to be a Sox fan right now. The correct move is for Konerko to say goodbye on his own. If he wants to find another team that will give a part time job, more power to him. But he can't come back unless they find a way to trade Dunn, and also keep Konerko as a part time player.

Francona won AL Manager of the Year. He should thank the White Sox.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 12, 2013 -> 01:04 PM) There is zero chance Beckham is gone. Viciedo I'd be at about a 20% chance. There's zero chance that there is zero chance Beckham is staying or going. I'd just like to see a statement trade that the team is changing. If they return with DeAza, Ramirez, Viciedo, Beckham, Kepp/Gillaspie, Dunn...that's a lot of a bad offense returning.