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Very big shot by Brewer.

Rose is missing almost everything.

It's official: LeBron can do anything he wants and he'll never get called for anything.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:43 PM) Oh Thibs why you didnt try this with Thomas before will boggle the mind This is what Haslem did for the Heat in game 2 basically.

GIVE IT TO ME BIG SEXY!

The Sox had just as many chances today as they did yesterday. Good thing Pierre was fast enough to beat that single out and force a bad play. When Pierre drives in all of your runs...well, that just means the rest of the team is probably doing something wrong.

BIG SEXY!

Deng's in some heavy foul trouble.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:31 PM) I really, really didn't the refs were all the bad in this series until these past 5 minutes. Aren't they supposed to be giving the Bulls calls since the NBA usually wants a longer series? Or does Stern want Miami to win earlier so they can rest up and win the title?

QUOTE (Felix @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:27 PM) I just turned it on, but that was definitely a foul on Noah. You remember when the T'Wolves got like 6 techs in a row? That was some funny s***. I thought this was a super mini version of that. Refs getting whistle happy.

f*** THE REFS.

So we get called for a travel when LeBron travels half the damn time?

I don't think that should have been a flagrant...

Come on offense, score some damn points. LeBron's acting again...

13 point lead, gotta keep expanding it. Keep the foot on the pedal.

They need to make transition baskets.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:10 PM) Better? Much clearer.

We've never won on 5/26?

Wade has 7 TOs already?

Third place!

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 26, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) To A: Sluggers should have been in quotes. We really have just one guy in Dunn who fits the Thome mold. And yes, I'll always be down on that type of player but I understand the trade-off you're mentioning. It's the other 6 or so guys taking slugger-approaches at the plate that bothers me. To B: The Thome's Ghost comment is a facetious explanation of the same problem we've had for years and years. Only 1/3 of our lineup is ever productive, it sucks, and I'm sick of it. Maybe my wagons are finally circling in the "Fire Greg Walker" camp. I feel like Paulie is the only guy not listening to him. There's been some stuff from one of the beat writers that part of the reason Konerko came back was Walker. Konerko is a guy who tweaks so much in his swing so often, he really does need somebody to talk to about his mechanics. I wouldn't be surprised if Walker's one of this best friends.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 26, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Demolished my eye. I think Thome epitomizes the all-or-nothing approach. That'll just have to remain my opinion. I hated every one of his at bats. Y'all loved him, good for you. In my eyes he fooled you. To each his own. Edit: I'm just not amazed with 120 hits per season. I don't care if he hit some to left or center. it's still a pathetic amount of hits from your hitting position, but whatever. And Sweet Fancy Moses with the "you'd rather have less offense" comment. Where do you get your material? Do you scrape it off the walls of yer septic tank with yer fingers? I'm clearly talking about guys who work counts, but that's cool, go ahead and continue to think there is only one type of good offensive player. Go ahead, you'll fit right in here. Meanwhile the Sox are under .500 with your sluggers, and all I want is for our players to stop swinging hard as f*** at 3 outa the first 4 pitches every time. Paulie gets it, Morel does to an extent, Carlos has flashes of it, Beckham used to and Pierre is just too weak for it to matter. Why do we put so much pressure on our pitchers to be perfect, and simultaneously let other pitchers do cartwheels through our lineup...well except once, or maybe twice a week? This isn't new for 2011. Jim Thome didn't work counts? My god, you're out of your mind. Go to Baseball-Reference and do some damn research, you're wasting everyone's time. I don't think everyone else was delusional of Thome when everyone in this thread except one thinks you're grasping at straws. Your mindset is extremely narrow: you go back on the handful of moments where Thome and hitters like him failed in big situations and continue to replay it over and over again until you make yourself believe that he was a horrible hitter. You refuse to believe anything else even though the guy is on the verge of 600 home runs, has a career .400 OBP, and will eventually get voted into the Hall of Fame. But oh, all of those stats were the result of stat padding, so forget it, he sucks. Until you prove to me and everyone else that Thome's contributions were nothing but stat-padding, you're just a crazy guy yapping nonsense.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 26, 2011 -> 11:31 AM) Hitting home runs isn't good baseball? Tell me how that works again? It kills rallies and it pads stats. If this thread is trying to draw a parallel between Dunn and Thome, then it's the wrong topic to go at. Thome has never been as bad as Dunn has been this year. The problem with Dunn isn't that he's an all-or-nothing hitter this year, it's because he's terrible and in a huge slump that pretty much nobody saw coming. A guy who puts up consistent 35+ HR seasons hitting like Mark Kotsay all of a sudden is unprecedented to say the least.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 26, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) Na, just another reason people grasp to turn a blind-eye to his overall uselessness. I don't care if it was one of the greatest hits this team has ever seen. It's still bad baseball, and in this newly formed pitcher's era, it ain't gonna fly. So let me get this straight, you want less offense in a more pitcher oriented league?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 26, 2011 -> 12:29 AM) All true. But those stats don't paint the whole picture...and the whole picture sucks. Allow me to throw the other paint on our masterpiece: All the 0-fer nights All the ground balls Basically anything that wasn't a HR or a laserbeam double was an out 3 hits to knock in his glorious, stat-padding walks All those f***ing Ks Useless against lefties A great stat-padding night once a week to make you forget all the previous failure. Any parallels to this year's DH? I mean we all knew Dunn was gonna be the same all or nothing hitter that Thome was, but now it seems everybody but Paulie suffers from Thomeitis, pullitis, longswingitis, uselessitis...whatever you wanna call it. It only wins ball games some of the time, but in no way is it a model for grinding down pitchers each night. Been goin on for way too long now so I'm all in favor of moving the fences back at least 100 ft in every direction til we pull our heads outa our asses and rid ourselves of this awful ghost. Do you have a counter for all of these things? Because it's obvious you forgot to do some fact checking. Thome hit as many grounders as he hit fly balls in his career and the trend was generally the same his time here in Chicago. You made it sound like grounds into more double plays than Konerko, but he had seasons of 4, 10, 18, and 8 GIDPs from 2006 to 2009. Konerko during that time? 25, 21, 17, and 15. Singles accounted for 52% of Thome's hits while he was here in Chicago. So basically, he hit more singles than home runs and doubles combined. Thome didn't pull the ball all the time. In fact, he had more hits to center and left field (291) than he had to right field (183) during his stint with the Sox. Thome's numbers with RISP: 2006: .339 2007: .313 2008: .306 2009: .253 He's not the reason the Sox pitchers faltered in 06 during the second half of the season. He's not the reason why the bullpen blew up in 07. He was part of the reason why the White Sox won the 2008 division title. He was not the reason the White Sox choked in 09. You can think whatever you like, but there's nothing wrong with having a hitter who can only hit for power and draw walks. Jim Thome is a Hall of Famer who produced very well for the Sox, you can't blame him for his teammates' failures.