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QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:21 PM) I'll take Hf over Loyola cuz Loyola can't win the big game in the playoffs in recent years. It's live on CSN if anyone is curious. It is. I will be in attendance though if anyone is going.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 09:12 AM) Based on the following article, a short term deal might be very appealing to Desmond: http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/9/28/9409...mond-free-agent Such an arrangement could be ideal for the Sox, as well. Hahn could simply tell him that the Sox understand that he had an uncharacteristically mediocre season, and that they would give him an opportunity to rebuild his true value. They could even guarantee him two years, with an opt out in the 2ND year. What would Desmond have to lose? Let him name his price, within reason. We would be getting a guy who is still in his prime, without having to make a long term commitment. In fact, I'd like to see another player, or two, in a similar circumstance, signed to deals like that. It sure beats giving guys at the end of their careers, long term, exorbitant contracts. Why would they give up a top 30 pick to sign Ian Desmond? Why would they give it up to sign him to a short-term deal?

Owen Schoenfeld ‏@The_Xsport 44m44 minutes ago @ChiSoxraBBit @gastelumcharlie Saw this like an hour ago, the guy won't respond to me. Always thought Montas made sense in a deal though 0 retweets 2 likes Reply Retweet Like 2 More JOSE C GASTELUM ‏@gastelumcharlie 31m31 minutes ago @The_Xsport @ChiSoxraBBit rumors always gonna be rumors, A García could be at that Deal too. 0 retweets 1 like Reply Retweet Like 1 More Owen Schoenfeld ‏@The_Xsport 26m26 minutes ago @gastelumcharlie @ChiSoxraBBit I guess what I'm asking is if you have actually heard that these discussions are taking place. 0 retweets 1 like Reply Retweet Like 1 More JOSE C GASTELUM ‏@gastelumcharlie 22m22 minutes ago @The_Xsport @ChiSoxraBBit /if you r asking me if this deal its a sure deal the answer is No. If the Q is if I heard something, of course Yes 0 retweets 0 likes Reply Retweet Like More Owen Schoenfeld ‏@The_Xsport 19m19 minutes ago @gastelumcharlie @ChiSoxraBBit Wow. Thanks for sharing then. When Rockies exposed preference for power pitchers, I knew they'd like Montas

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 03:40 PM) How would you like to be one of their season ticket sales reps now? Management has to give them something to work with. They have to win though. They loaded up last year and sucked and nobody went.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) My hunch is that Justin Upton would be a safer bet, but who knows? For sure but Upton costs a top 30 draft pick and Cespedes does not.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 03:21 PM) http://www.sbnation.com/2015/11/12/9724032...ding-chris-sale They aren't rebuilding but they aren't going nuts in free agency. It just means they will make some trades and make some smaller signings. They were never going to dip into the market for free agents with draft compensation attached because it doesn't make any sense.

This was some guy on twitter earlier…. JOSE C GASTELUM ‏@gastelumcharlie 17m17 minutes ago Rumores: Carlos González podría estar llegando a @whitesox y unas de las razones es Frankie Montas #100Millas This is translated: Rumours: Carlos González may be coming to @whitesox and one of the reasons is Frankie ride #100Millas He's been tweeting other rumors that I haven't seen. Might be all made up.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) 3rd least runs scored and 4th lowest team OPS in all of baseball. Obviously there needs to be a balance, but defense would be the least of my worries if I'm Hahn. We play in a hitter friendly park in the AL, if we put these proposed defensive minded lineups of Eaton and Trayce in the same OF every night we are going to keep putting up putrid offensive #'s and have no shot. Just at a glance I see teams like Houston, Pit, and Texas getting by just fine without doing very well on D...at least according to these #'s. I agree here. Hahn even said it during the season. They are so bad offensively that the other areas stand out. If they hit all year, the defense wouldn't have been focused on as much.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) No draft pick is a plus. But he certainly has his negatives. I'd be fine with a 5 year $100+ And that would be $30 million+ more than any contract the White Sox have ever given someone

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) I'm not sure how much value EJ has. Quintana has a ton. I could see a Q trade for some pieces and signing a guy like Zimmerman to smack behind Sale. Not likely but I could see a scenario like that. I'd hate to see Q traded. It's just hard to imagine keeping him and still adding an impact bat without signing one. I also think Desmond could be a perfect rebuild value option. Would allow us the time for Anderson without rushing. Why do you keep suggesting signing players with Qualifying Offers attached? You are going to be disappointed...

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 09:27 AM) If Rice minimizes their mistakes on offense, does not out coach themselves and takes advantage of their talent, they should win and have a date at home with Loyola in the semis. I am not sure if you are noticing but a couple of upsets and you could see Marist and Rice in 8A finals. Decent chance you see Marist and Loyola. HF

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:58 AM) Dan Hayes was on CSN last night from the GM meetings, and he said Eric Johnson is on the block. I was wondering about this too. Maybe Erik Johnson and Micah Johnson gets you a hitter that you like. They can sign a Latos or Fister in free agency to take Johnson's spot in the rotation. There's also a chance that one of those guys rebounds enough to receive a Qualifying Offer next year or even be traded during the season. I just don't know how much value Erik Johnson really has.

Trade Erik Johnson in a package for a position player. Sign Doug Fister for 1 year and $8 million. He rebounds nicely and we offer him a QO next year. Wishful thinking......

This is exactly how I feel about the Quintana situation. Tom Fornelli does an excellent job here: http://www.writesox.com/2015/11/jose-quint...ade-rumors.html

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 07:07 PM) Don't think the qualifying offer is totally going to deter the sox. They got a 10 pick which is protected and should be a comp pick for shark when he declines. Sox don't have enough prospects to get the players back to fill all the holes they have. Quintana is going to be probably have to moved in order to full the spots. This is probably the last year they can try to sign qualifying offer free agent . They lose the Samardzija pick if they sign a Qualifying Offer free agent. The whole point of keeping Shark was to recoup the pick. I think you can cross anyone with a QO off your list.

I'd be stunned if they gave up a top 30 pick. I'll say Alexei returns for 2 years $13 million.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) Pierzynksi returning to braves. Might take wieters out of play for them Wieters is out of play for the White Sox too. Was as soon as that Qualifying Offer was given.

He'll sign in San Francisco and I bet he has a really good year.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) Essentially. CBS had a one shot opportunity to move from WBBM to WSCR and everyone kind of knew it would happen due to the White Sox move. Yeah. It's a really smart move for both parties. Feder had the news about a week ago though.

Chris Sale had a 6.2 fWAR season with a FIP of 2.73. Sonny Gray put up a 3.8 fWAR and a 3.45 FIP. Him being in the discussion over Sale is a joke.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Why does a team need two hitting coaches? Most teams are doing it. It can't hurt. One guy never reaches all 25 guys on a team anyway. Not a big deal in my opinion.

Some very sensitive folks in this thread. I'm glad nobody watches football with me......

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) What do you expect him to say? I'd translate that as follow: Yeah, ya' know, Jeff sucked balls with us. But really, what'd we give up? A SS who isn't a SS that can hit a bit, but will never be even an OK defender. A back of the rotation pitcher who isn't that young that will likely be a middle reliever at best? Plus a C that Coop hates and our pitchers hated throwing to. Oh and we threw in this guy down in AA who supposedly can hit minor league pitching pretty well, but has no position or power. Yeah, I traded a bunch of leftovers for Shark, and Shark s*** the bed. Excellent post

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) Good to see this is what passes for journalism at the Sun Times now. The headline and Lede aren't supported by anything in the article. I see one attributed quote about his market -- from Hahn. That's one opinion by a guy that has a very vested outcome in seeing such a "robust" market form for Shark. I mean, FFS, at least get the pro-forma puff piece quote from an "un named scout" that "sees a fixable flaw" and a guy "ready to bounce back at a buy low price". Jeez. Thanks Hahn but I'm pretty sure not having Marcus and Bassit will affect the team going forward and that Jeff's awful season will impact the team in 2016. Hahn is already mastering KW style "cover your ass" quotes. They didn't think that Marcus and Bassitt were huge losses though. They decided that Samardzija (for 1 year)+top 30 2016 pick is better going forward than the 4 players that they gave up.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) I heard that many, many closers are on the block. Wonder if Robertson is one of them. My guess would be no.