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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) Were Dunn's 75 HRs from 2012-2013 not enough? I was probably Dunn's biggest fan on this board. He underachieved though as a whole.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) Nova is not an improvement in this rotation.... Decent bounce back candidate if he's healthy though. Could have a nice year and earn a QO at the end of the season. Especially with next year's free agent pitching class.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 12:33 PM) When I think of Quintana and the Cubs I envision a trade involving Baez and Castro, with their side eating some of his remaining contract. Schwarber and Gleyber Torres minimum or I hang up the phone.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:40 AM) Whoever just gave that s*** its own thread, thank you very much. It's usually f***ing zombie nonsense in here. Good lord.

Rick Hahn said today that Jacob Turner will come to Spring Training to compete for a spot in the White Sox rotation.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 11:12 AM) He will opt out because he can double his annual contract by doing so. For sure. I don't think he'd stay here though and I don't want the Bulls to try either. That's why they should move him.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) Gasol has a no trade clause. Would he go to Dallas? Pachulia, Justin Anderson, and a 1st rounder. There I just traded Pau.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) Gasol has a no trade clause. He'd probably waive it for a title contender though, no?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 04:11 PM) I'm not blaming Obama, but it sure seems to me we've had sooooooo many of these mass shootings during his 8 years. Gunmen kill many today in California in a building that helps the disabled??? Pretty soon we're going to be in a militaristic state everywhere we go. Nobody's gonna be allowed in any building, any sports arena, cause frankly at any time somebody might come in and blast away. It's just plain sickening. It's Obama's watch. Not saying it's his fault but wow, all the murders, all the destruction. Just think how many people are plotting mass murders as I write this. It has to be thousands of plots being planned right now, which is very very scary. Peace on earth good will toward men. What would you like him to do about it though? You're implying that it's his fault. This is one of the problems. Republicans want to blame Democrats. Democrats want to blame Republicans. And we are sheep that keep doing this while the people that are really running this country continue to do whatever benefits them.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) When did Gasol say this? Last I heard he said he hasn't even though about his contract and he doesn't intend to think about it until the offseason. That was per KC Johnson like a day ago. He told Vincent Goodwill yesterday that he will opt-out.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) havent we seen enough of the Dunn/Laroche mold? Not if the guy actually hits for power like they are supposed to. I like High K/High BB players that hit a s***load of homers. The problem is LaRoche doesn't do that and Dunn didn't hit enough homers to justify it. I'd absolutely rather have Alvarez or Carter than LaRoche because I'm fairly confident that the latter 2 will actually hit the ball out of the ballpark.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) @Joelsherman1 Hear Pelfrey is 2 yrs at $16M with #Tigers pending physical Verlander, Zimmermann, Sanchez, Pelfrey, Norris. Bring it. Yep. Not quite as frightening as Price/Scherzer/Verlander/Sanchez.

Derrick Rose sucks now. The Bulls aren't winning a title. They'll never do this but they should take a step back this year. Gasol has stated that he is opting out after the the season (as he should). In my opinion, the Bulls should deal him. They should trade Noah as well. I know that leaves them pretty thin but it doesn't really matter and I'd rather obtain assets now than get nothing in the offseason. This would be the best course of action for now and the future of the franchise which is why they'll never ever do it.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 09:55 AM) imo, the dodger will start with rodon then move on to Q is they are expecting to eat laroche contract and get ethier. No chance. Q would cost Joc Pederson +. I think Rodon would actually cost more than Q. No chance the Dodgers would ask for that in return.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 09:25 AM) Now this is a very intriguing bat. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/hyun...offers-kbo.html Stats http://www.baseball-reference.com/register...id=kim---004hye Has some pop and with high OBP potential. Hope the Sox are looking into this player. Mods: could you please correct my spell checker? The first name should read Hyeon-soo. Grrr. Where would the White Sox play him?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 09:03 AM) If* he passes it... recently more players have been failing them. Still rare, but a possibility. He'll pass.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:14 AM) I don't understand what the economics of this deal haven't been announced. The Sox haven't announced the deal yet and probably won't until he passes a physical.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:39 AM) I think the Dodgers can find a better deal for Ethier than trading for LaRoche only to release him. Ethier's value has rebounded and could go up more depending on how much the big FA outfielders contracts look after they've signed. Danks could be a somewhat realistic option but very doubtful since the Dodgers need a legit front line starter and have McCarthy coming back. Danks would certainly fit into that ball park very well though. Yeah you are probably right. Ethier doesn't really make sense on the Sox though with LaRoche also on the team. That's why I put it the way I did.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:54 AM) I agree about going after McMahon but with first base open for the Rockies they can put McMahon there when he's ready. That said, myself and a few others have been talking since mid summer about trying to trade Montas for McMahon since they are rated so closely together in the top 100 with Montas as #54 and McMahon at #50. In theory its a fit but if the Rockies are high on McMahon then the Sox might be SOL. Arenado will be on another team by the time McMahon is ready. McMahon was in A+ last year.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:57 AM) I wouldn't mind Ethier but I can't see why the Dodgers would take LaRoche just to sit him on the bench. Well Rosenthal tweeted this morning that they'd like to move one of Ethier or Crawford. The only way it works for White Sox is without LaRoche. They could take LaRoche back and release him. They've done it before. Multiple times.

Should the White Sox be interested in Andre Ethier if the Dodgers would eat LaRoche's contract? Ethier is 33 years old and is owed $37.5 million the next 2 years. How much would the Dodgers have to eat? Ethier put up a 2.9 fWAR and had a wRC+ of 137 last year. He was really good vs RHP. Vs RHP: .385 wOBA, 150 wRC+, high .336 BABIP, with a .900 OPS. My question is: What would it take? Who would the Dodgers have to take back in return and how much money would they have to eat? Ethier would give the Sox the LH run producer against RHP that they need and if they could dump LaRoche, it could give them flexibility with DH spot.

Trade for Brett Lawrie. Sign Asdrubal Cabrera to 1 year $6.5 million deal.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) I'll stop, lest I become a pest in this thread. Just remember, Greg was against the move. File it under "he didn't like it." There's no reason to not like it better than the alternative though. You're not making any sense right now. There's not some magical catcher tree to pluck guys from.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) Kudos, I like this platoon. The upside is pretty high IMO. Downside is that Avila is toast but in that scenario you hope Navarro can take over full time. Doesn't seem the ORG valued the pitch framing metric as much as some of our posters here. FWIW I have no idea who is right but it is one data point that at least the Sox perhaps don't consider it that important. Hahn values pitch framing. It's one of the main reasons why he's chased Jason Castro, Miguel Montero, and Yasmani Grandal. He decided that pitch framing doesn't make up for being horrible offensively and allowing 15 passed balls however.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) Have you looked at his stats? He played in 54 games and hit as badly as Avila did. They both did draw some walks though, improving the catcher spot in ability to take a walk I guess. Greg, Navarro had an .894 OPS vs LHP last season. Should be a decent platoon. It's definitely not worse.