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QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:30 AM) For all those that think Shuck should definately NOT BE A FULL TIME DH, here are his stats. Although he has not been a full timer, his stats speak volumes about whether he should have been over LaRoche. Especially when the Sox were still in the wild card race and LaRoche could not hit a stationary ball much less a pitched one. SHUCK'S STATS Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF s 2011 24 HOU NL 37 92 81 9 22 2 1 0 3 2 0 11 7 .272 .359 .321 .680 91 26 3 0 0 0 1 2013 26 LAA AL 129 478 437 60 128 20 3 2 39 8 4 27 54 .293 .331 .366 .697 98 160 10 1 6 7 0 2014 27 TOT AL 38 114 110 12 16 1 0 2 9 2 0 3 12 .145 .168 .209 .377 8 23 1 0 1 0 1 2014 27 LAA AL 22 88 84 10 14 1 0 2 9 2 0 3 11 .167 .195 .250 .445 28 21 0 0 1 0 1 2014 27 CLE AL 16 26 26 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .077 .077 .077 .154 -57 2 1 0 0 0 0 2015 28 CHW AL 79 165 143 15 38 8 2 0 15 7 5 16 16 .266 .340 .350 .689 95 50 2 1 3 2 0 4 Yrs 283 849 771 96 204 31 6 4 66 19 9 57 89 .265 .313 .336 .649 85 259 16 2 10 9 2 162 Game Avg. 162 486 441 55 117 18 3 2 38 11 5 33 51 .265 .313 .336 .649 85 148 9 1 6 5 1 LAA (2 yrs) 151 566 521 70 142 21 3 4 48 10 4 30 65 .273 .309 .347 .657 88 181 10 1 7 7 1 CLE (1 yr) 16 26 26 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .077 .077 .077 .154 -57 2 1 0 0 0 0 HOU (1 yr) 37 92 81 9 22 2 1 0 3 2 0 11 7 .272 .359 .321 .680 91 26 3 0 0 0 1 CHW (1 yr) 79 165 143 15 38 8 2 0 15 7 5 16 16 .266 .340 .350 .689 95 50 2 1 3 2 0 AL (3 yrs) 246 757 690 87 182 29 5 4 63 17 9 46 82 .264 .308 .338 .646 84 233 13 2 10 9 1 NL (1 yr) 37 92 81 9 22 2 1 0 3 2 0 11 7 .272 .359 .321 .680 91 26 3 0 0 0 1 Shuck is a 4th OF. Nothing more.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 01:06 PM) and i have gone this route before with other posters. b/c he is has done extremely well in overcoming hurdles, doesn't give him a life long pass on his future dealing. Nobody is giving him any pass. He's good at his job. They have won 3 cups that he's been directly involved in. He remade the team again this offseason. It's absurd. It's not just you.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) just b/c i can acknowledge his accomplishment and his good works, i still have my negative opinions on his work. he can't or he seems to me to not gauge contracts or length or value a player. second, i agree with your statement. but you are right about finding talent. Bowman has 3 championships with the Hawks and fans still question him. Ridiculous.

I'm not opposed to the Sox taking a pitcher at #10 if he's the best player on the board but here is some stuff about some of the early favorites on the position players side. Bobby Dalbec 3B Arizona 6'4 215 https://mlbdraftcountdown.wordpress.com/201...bec-3b-arizona/ Chris Okey C Clemson 5'11 195 https://mlbdraftcountdown.wordpress.com/201...okey-c-clemson/ Nick Banks OF Texas A&M 6'0 200 https://mlbdraftcountdown.wordpress.com/201...ks-of-texas-am/ Corey Ray OF Louisville 5'11 185 https://mlbdraftcountdown.wordpress.com/201...-of-louisville/ Blake Rutherford OF Chaminade, HS. California 6'3 190 https://mlbdraftcountdown.wordpress.com/201...ade-prep-hs-ca/

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) If Stone is negotiating, he obviously will have a say. Maybe Chip Caray can be like he grandpa and work both sides of town. Isn't Chip Caray in Atlanta?

QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) In the seasons where Thompson had more than 135 PA (I used that because that is what he had with the Sox this year, and yes I realize that is a small sample size) he always had a walk rate above 8.8%, except this year at AAA. His walk rate with the Sox was very similar to his walk rate throughout his time in the minors, except this year at AAA. His walk rate may have fell off this year at AAA to an all time low for him, but his K rate had also dropped 4.7% below his previous best in the minors. His improved K rate had also stayed with him in his call up to the Sox. His K rate had been going down every year except 2014. Did he change something in his approach? Did the light bulb go on for him? His career ISO in the minors is .208. His BABIP was also about .300 for his full seasons in the minors. I think it is reasonable to expect him to put up a .235/.305/.405 line next year over a full season. Trayce Thompson stats in leagues he made at least 135 PA's A (19) G 58 BB% 8.9% K% 29.4% ISO .205 BABIP .296 wRC+ 106 A (20) G 136 BB% 10.1% K% 28.8% ISO .216 BABIP .309 wRC+ 114 A+ (21) G 116 BB% 8.8% K% 28.2% ISO .232 BABIP .316 wRC+ 120 AA (22) G 135 BB% 10.2% K% 23.6% ISO .154 BABIP .280 wRC+ 107 AA (23) G 133 BB% 10.9% K% 25.4% ISO .181 BABIP .301 wRC+ 108 AAA (24) G 104 BB% 5.5% K% 18.9% ISO .180 BABIP .295 wRC+ 114 MLB (24) G 44 BB% 9.6% K% 19.3% ISO .238. BABIP .341 wRC+ 144 He talked about how he started to swing earlier in counts to make more contact. His walk rate went down with his K rate because he was seeing fewer pitches per plate appearance.

They need an actual PBP guy though. Those ex-players are all analysts.

I wonder if WLS would hire someone for post-game and let the same person do the home call on tv? I guess that would be tough to do. I wonder if someone like Wayne Randazzo would be ready. He was broadcasting Cougars games and working at The Cell. Now he's the Pre/Post host for Mets in New York.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) Matt Williams fired. The entire staff is gone. Nightengale speculates that it could be Dusty Baker. Sounds like a guy doing a friend a favor. Do you know what would be fun? Ozzie in DC haha

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) I mean, that's great LA talk radio feels that way, but fact is Quintana has been more valuable over the last 3 seasons than Puig (13.4 WAR vs. 10.9). Frazier has 2 years left on his contract and is 3 years older than Quintana. Quintana is the most valuable of the 3. Q for Frazier would be awful. I'm not opposed to trading for Frazier, but Q being involved doesn't make any sense.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) I wish people would get Heyward out of their minds now, instead of building it up as a real possibility. LOL. Completely agree. Not happening. Think more along the lines of Ben Zobrist and possible trades.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 08:36 PM) I'd be content with a 250 K with a 3.10 ERA season for him next year. He has a 2.74 FIP.

The White Sox kind of took a step back on purpose in 2013 and 2014. I would have been fine with a change but I don't really care in all honesty. They need players. You can't purposely "lose" for 2 seasons, try to win in 2015, and then say Robin Ventura has had 3 straight losing seasons. It's a dumb argument. Of course he did. They didn't have the talent to win the last 2 years and knew that from the start. This year is a different story. I just hate season that dumb "he's been bad for 3 years" argument. It's lazy.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) What players? Short of them signing David Price and trading for Arenado or Puig, there's nothing to see here. This team is awful defensively, their lineup sucks a fat rhinosorous dick. They have one of the 5 best pitchers in baseball. They have another pitcher that has been 8th in fWAR since 2013. They also have another TOR with 6 years of control. They have a good bullpen. They have cornerstone pieces in Abreu/Eaton. There are absolutely holes. They have pitching though and loads of it. I need to see what happens this offseason before I start writing off future seasons. That's just me though.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) Not trying to start a fight, just defend myself and Ozzie. So the Sox fire Parent with a weekend to go of meaningless games. I guess Hahn quit on the team by removing somebody before all games were played. Uh ... this is meaningless just like Ozzie leaving with a week to go meant NOTHING. Both teams sucked beyond belief and it mattered not. I don't know why Robin would want to stay BTW. This team is going to suck again next year. Why does he want to manage bad hitting and defensive players. What's hilarious about this post is that as soon as I read the thread, I knew you would post something comparing the Parent situation to Ozzie. I wish I could have gotten odds.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) That doesn't at all change my point....... You were complaining about the offense and then lumped Tomlin in though. Haley calls the plays. Mike Tomlin doesn't get on the headset and tell Haley to make sure Bell gets the ball in that scenario. Maybe he should have though.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) Yup. When they trot out Robin in '16 I won't be watching. So even if they add new players that you like, you won't watch because of who the manager is? I don't believe you.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) Hopefully this is just the start. Ya gota clean house FO. Entire new coaching staff. This is not happening.

QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) Well 6.5 WAR guys at 26 dont grow on trees. For sure. They also cost more on the free agent market than the White Sox have ever spent before .

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 12:06 PM) I respect the s*** out of his game and I know they were very interested last offseason. I agree it's incredibly unlikely, it would be a very welcome surprise though. I am ok with them going with FA without picks attached tho and trading. I just want the defense to get a lot better to compliment the pitching and not sacrificing as much hitting. In other words, I want the team to get close to perfect. I phrased it wrong. Of course they'd be interested in having Jason Heyward. I just don't see any scenario in which they pay him $160-$180 million.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) Sox were interested this last off season before the Cardinals got him. He's one player in free agency that fits the White Sox and still is young enough to build around the core of Abreu and Eaton. I know. I just think it will be way too much money.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) So a guy with no coaching experience who can come in and be their friend? We got enough of that. I read it as a veteran bench coach with managerial experience and a Spanish Speaking coach. Maybe Ibanez comes on as a Base Coach and they hire someone like Manny Acta to be the bench coach.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 11:14 AM) Can't say it's unexpected with this organization. Remember loyalty is more important than accountability. Not saying it's all Robin's fault, it's not, but he's made enough boneheaded decisions just this year (remember Eaton bunting with two strikes in Cleveland, the Detroit replay debacle and of course the Zach Duke being announced affair in Milwaukee before the pinch hitter was, to make you wonder just what he is thinking during games. Don't know if I shared this here but last Friday I spoke with someone who knows Robin well and his coaches and was told Parent wasn't giving him good advice this year because "he wants his job." Was also told Parent is a "negative person" on the bench and with the team. So it looks like (as many predicted back in July) at best maybe one or two coaches are changed out. That's it. An organization in serious trouble and that's their idea of fixing the brain-trust, not bringing in new people from outside the organization to look at the number of problems with new ideas. So be it. Basically they have reached the level where they "hope" to be good next year. And hey, it's baseball, it could happen....but I wouldn't bet on it. Mark If I were Mark Parent, and millionaires weren't doing the things being asked of them, I'd probably be a negative person as well.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 10:52 AM) You know what would be great? Having an OF of Eaton-Thompson-Heyward. Your team defense would be leaps and bounds better. You've been on the Heyward thing for awhile. No chance the Sox will be interested though.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 07:47 AM) The Steelers had two drives late in the game where they needed just a few yards on 3rd/4th downs. 4 plays. 0 touches for Leveon Bell. I understand not trusting your kicker in that OT drive from that spot but Bell was running over everyone. What an atrocious job by Tomlin. I was on Baltimore -2.5, but that was one of the luckiest sides I've ever been on. Some of these coaches just have no idea how to call games. They call out of fear of losing rather than what is best for winning. Todd Haley calls the plays.........