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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) Cartwright, Skiles, Del Negro...these are the types these clowns hired until they lucked into Thibs, and now just try to piss him off whenever they can. I have no doubt the tension between the FO and team has cost the Bulls on the floor this season. When Thibs is traded or mutually departs after this season, he will get hired in about 5 seconds. The Bulls will hire someone they will be pissed off at in a year or two because they won't be able to win when Pau is 2 years older, and Noah and DRose are constantly injured. J4L is kinda crazy, but one thing he has harped on in the past is how other teams really go after titles vs. the Bulls who do spend their cap money but really are about as conservative as can be, and really never make bold moves, and when it doesn't work out because the entire roster is always hurt, it must be Thibs. Other teams think way outside the box. The Bulls...not so much. Ehh. I'm not convinced that Fred Hoiberg wouldn't be very successful as HC of the Bulls.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) And that's fair why? If anyone really thinks the Bulls will win more games or advance farther in the playoffs with the same players but without Thibs, they are going to be sorry for what they wished for when, and I agree with this part, he does depart. JR still wonders why LaRussa was allowed to leave. Thibs is better than LaRussa. He will rue the day he lets Gar/Pax send Thibs packing. Great. If they feel like they will never win a title with Tom coaching though, how can they possibly not move on?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) Anyone who is going to tell me they saw Jimmy Butler as an All-Star when he was drafted is a damned liar. Nobody said that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) Apparently this is what the Cubs owner thinks of his fans. They need pretty pictures to keep their attention. Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 27s27 seconds ago Ricketts feels his local Television can upgrade graphics and on screen video side bars to keep fan attention The White Sox are about to change the feel of U.S. Cellular Field to that of an NBA game to reach a "younger audience". It's really not that different.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:35 PM) Let's also ignore the 4-5 scrap heap PGs Thibs has spun off, that have gone on to get paid by other teams. I'm not ignoring that. I just didn't bring that up. Thibs is a great coach. Probably one of the 5 best in basketball but the man definitely has flaws. And those flaws + his relationship with management are the reasons why he won't be coaching in Chicago next year. Many in this town treat him like a deity when he's never won anything. That's my point.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) You're saying all Thibs did was give young players a chance to play when the other player goes out, as if he has done nothing else to develop those players. He definitely is a big part as to why they are developed. The fact that they were good picks and the players worked hard as well gets lost though.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Yet when it was time for them to play, they are all ready to go. Jimmy Butler is a freaking all star, after taking over for an all-star in Luol Deng. Very true. But they should be playing before they are eventually "forced" into action. It is well known that Tom grinds his players to dust to win regular season basketball games. Snell should have had more minutes long before the recent stretch. Mirotic should play more and McDermott should be playing too. I'm pretty sure Gar/Pax didn't trade 2 first rounders for McDermott so that he could take a redshirt year.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Right, because all Thibs did was give young players a chance to play. What are you saying here?

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) Really? I'm waiting for your response.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) Did I just imagine Jimmy Butler? The growth of both Snell and Mirotic this year? Butler only got extended minutes when Deng was out and then traded. Snell has only played because of injuries to Hinrich. The only way that Mirotic plays enough in when Taj or someone is injured or out. McDermott doesn't play at all. It's ridiculous.

People in this city act like Tom Thibodeau has won multiple championships. When is the last time that a young player emerged on this team that wasn't caused by an injury? Thibs is a great coach but there are plenty of reasons why he was an assistant for 20 years. This will be his last season with the Bulls.

Sounds like Teuvo will be recalled. Unleash him and let's see what the kid can do. Seems like Kaner could be back for a potential 1st or 2nd round playoff series.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 09:02 AM) I don't know, after the first one it felt like he would come back, these are the "no, no he's not coming back". And rebuilding sucks, I have no desire to watch bad basketball. They aren't going to rebuild though. They almost have to double down on Rose. He's owed $20 million each of the next two years. They are stuck there. Gasol and Butler will be around. I would look to deal Noah and Taj and see if I can get more scoring to compliment Rose/Butler/Gasol. They can't pay Noah again so they might as well use him as a potential asset.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 04:04 AM) Of course he's going to repair it and not its have it removed. At this point, why conserve and worry about his 30s? He should be trying to get back on the court. This isn't true. If it's less than a 50% tear, it's more beneficial to just snip it at this point. This may not be that serious. We need PTACT in here to shed light on this.

After looking at Noesi's White Sox numbers, they weren't as good as I thought they were. I never said that Coop "fixed" him though. I was relaying a cool story about how and why he was acquired. Next time I won't.

Sorry but using Noesi's full season stats from last year vs Danks' full season stats is f***ing meaningless and a really bad, dumb way of arguing a point.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 07:34 AM) Do you think John Danks sucked last year? Noesi's White Sox ERA was 0.05 lower, and his FIP was higher. The emergence of Hector Noesi is very overblown. No I don't think John Danks sucks either. He just makes too much money and was way better before.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 06:35 PM) Noesi probably still sucks. Well he didn't suck for the White Sox last year but alright.

Rozner was telling a story about Noesi that I hadn't heard before. I knew that the White Sox liked him in the past but Rozner said something interesting this weekend. He said that when the White Sox were killing Noesi last season, Ken Williams called the dugout phone and told Cooper to watch him. Supposedly, Ken Williams said " We are going to have this guy next week and I know what is wrong with him". Then Ken Williams and Cooper broke down film and looked at the mechanics. Rozner mentioned that the White Sox think he is a rotation piece and not just some filler. He was coveted by the Sox for a long time.

I have a question for the group to ponder. Would it beneficial to the White Sox to not be able to come to terms with their 1st rounder this year? It would only leave the team with picks in rounds 4-40 and the Sox would only have about $2 million to spend on the entire draft. My idea then would be to go nuts in International Spending this year. In this scenario, the White Sox would pick 9th next year and own their own 1st rounder. They may even have a third 1st rounder as compensation for Samardzija. The White Sox could have one of the biggest draft budgets ever by doing this. I know it would be tricky to pull this year and blatantly skirting the rules but it'd be an awesome strategy. Add a little talent to system through draft this year. Go nuts in International Market, spending way past the restriction and lose the ability for next year. (White Sox never do this) But in 2016, could have potentially 3 first rounders with lots of $$ to maneuver and no budget in International market. This would be awesome. Is this plan crazy?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 07:57 AM) Especially with the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone this year, it's key to get the BPA in the 1st and probably for the 4th/5th too. But I would like to see the White Sox try to grab the best college catcher available starting around the 5th/6th round if they haven't grabbed one already. And another one sometime not too long after. Normally, you don't start filling gaps at specific positions until much later in the draft, like perhaps starting in the teens. And normally I agree with that. However, I do think that catching is an exception, because it is nearly impossible to trade for it. There are just so few long-term successful catchers, and so few catching prospects out there that look worthwhile, that teams aren't trading them. And the White Sox have, IMO, a dire lack of catching talent depth across the organization right now. I want to see that addressed if at all possible. So my question to this group is, who are the current college catchers at the top of people's draft boards? They can't really afford to do that though. They almost need to go under slot in round 1 because there just isn't much money in the pool. If they pay slot to the 1st pick, they only have like $1.5 million total for rounds 4-10. Lot of college seniors this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 19, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) The Sox are back in win now mode. If Rodon pitches like he can, they will make a space for him, somewhere. I just don't think this is true or smart. I don't want to sacrifice 1 entire year of control of a stud Boras client that will be in his prime for an extra month and a half in the big leagues. Rodon is ticketed for Charlotte and it's the right call regardless of what the White Sox say.

In the prospect handbook, it mentions that Matt Davidson struggled with the fact that he didn't win a major league job and then also had family issues that further helped complicate his season. Were these family issues documented? Did anyone else know about them?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) They said there will be a show announcement next week Spiegel is announcing his new co-host at 12:50 today.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 07:16 AM) Was Bassitt on the list? No I don't think so. Bassitt is a relief pitcher.