Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:54 PM) An 8th inning tested guy would be nice. Webb has thrown pretty well but his radar can go at anytime. Hey, hey, hey its Matt Albers has been decent but would you really trust him in a game you had to win? And Nate Jones is throwing zeroes but fanning no one in the minors. I think he still needs time. While everything you said is true, I think it would be a complete waste of resources to trade for an 8th inning guy when Nate Jones is hitting a 100 MPH in AAA. Give him a bit more time and the rust should come off. Until then, Petricka & Putnam are more than serviceable in the 8th inning role and Webb & Albers are fine as 6th/7th inning guys. If you're trading prospects, get a RF that upgrades your defense and allows Avi to get some time at DH.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:51 PM) I've been defending Flowers. I agree that Soto deserves more starts but I've definitely been defending Flowers when people go on about how much he sucks. What's your argument for him not sucking exactly?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) Where are all the Flowers haters? One single really change your perception of him?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:44 PM) I dont think getting a RH reliever is a bad idea. More bullpen help is never bad. But a bat would be nice ontop of it. Not sure I get this. We're literally overflowing with RH relievers: Robertson Putnam Petricka Webb Albers Jones Why on earth would we trade for a RH reliever? We don't even have room for Jones right now.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:42 PM) Ship AR out while he is hot. Team ain't selling, so you best be ready for a playoff run.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:18 PM) I was watching Sports Talk on CSN. The guy they talked to from MLBN said he could see us buying and get a .....RH Reliever Lol...probably the deepest area on our team.

QUOTE (Brian26 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) It's not? Have you seen the last five combined years of Dunn and LaRoche? Do their struggles have to do with switching leagues or not adjusting to DHing? I'm not sure why a batter would suddenly become unproductive simply by moving to the AL.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:23 PM) Both just pulled from game in the 6th. Almost definitely Astros or Cubs Why Astros or Cubs?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 08:03 PM) Damn, that's not much Seems like a decent return IMO. They got two young major leaguers with multiple years of team control. They could have gambled on a package of prospects and gone for more upside, but obviously the Brewers wanted a bit more certainty.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 07:33 AM) If (1) the Sox continue to move closer in the WC standings (2) Danks continues to be bad and (3) EJ continues to be awesome in AAA, I'm not opposed to moving Danks to the pen and bringing up EJ to be the 5th starter. The problem is we're running out of space in the pen. Robertson Petricka Duke Putnam Webb Jennings Albers Jones (AAA) We do need a long reliever though, and Danks could probably fill that role pretty well, just not sure how you make room for him & Nate.

Mods, please ban this idiot. Dude isn't going to last another day the way he's going, so might as well put him down now and allow for more quality discussion.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:00 AM) This I agree with. I want them to take Danks deal back though. Danks, Avisail Garcia, and maybe like Thaddeus Lowry. We'll pay CarGo salary but they pay Danks. Keep Samardzija and call up Erik Johnson to take Danks spot and activate Nate Jones Love this idea, just not sure the Rockies would take Danks back without a huge bump in talent. It's one to thing to get Reyes and hope Coors will work its magic. It's another thing to expect Danks to be anything but horrific there. We'd really have to sweeten the pot IMO.

Adams, Montas, & Avi for CarGo would be a ridiculous overpay. That's giving up significantly more than Toronto gave up for Tulo even without taking on Reyes' bloated contract. And just like with Tulo, CarGo's potential suitors will be limited for the many obvious reasons discussed in this thread (expensive, health issues, etc). The whole point of a CarGo trade is he will cost less in talent than the other bats available. Also, if you're going to trade Adams & Montas, you might as well add another piece or two and do a three way deal where we get Puig, LA gets Hamels, and Philly gets prospects.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:01 PM) Danish has had an awful year. There hasn't been a team top 3 prospect dealt the entire trade-season....let's be sure to trade ours, Williams-style. What are you talking about? The Royals dealt two top 3 prospects and the Blue Jays dealt one.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) We are 6th to last place in the AL, have a negative 58 run differential, and will be at/under .500 when it hits August. These are all facts. Ok ok, I want to contend as much as anyone, but is this winning streak messing with our judgment here? That run differential means jack s*** though. Our position players played historically bad over the first few months, with almost every single guy performing well below expectations. Guys like Melky, Eaton, Alexei, & even Sanchez are now playing like they're capable of. This is a different team than the one we saw earlier this year and therefore our YTD run differential down to really mean much going forward.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) Exactly. That's why I've been beating the drum. Not with his contract and injury history. Plus he's hot right now. They'll want to move him now while the iron is hot after they moved Tulo. 100% agree. CarGo has some red flags, which is why he shouldn't cost a ton of talent to acquire. I think he's a gamble worth taking.

Alright, I'm now convinced the Sox can make a serious run at the 2nd wild card. If that's indeed the route they go, do you think they should trade for a bat and if so who? I know it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I really like the idea of CarGo. Allows us to hold onto Quintana, Shark, and most of our top prospects. I think if we take on most of his salary, we could get him for Avi and a lottery ticket prospect.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 07:45 PM) Angels just got David Murhpy and his .790 OPS for a song. Much rather a move like that than loading up the prospects for Cargo. Why in the world do you think CarGo is going to cost a boatload of prospects?

Time for the cycle!!

Holy f***! What!?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:53 PM) The avi thing works. But maybe we should target a better player. Cargo is good but maybe somebody a little sturdier and fleet of foot. I don't really think either Cargo is the perfect player. The perfect player is going to cost a f***ton of talent, CarGo's cost may be manageable because of his salary and history of health issues.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) 15:$22M, 16:$22M, 17:$22M, 18:$22M club option ($4M buyout) Reyes is owed basically another $55 million. Better be some amazing prospects coming back in return.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:02 AM) That is the first time I ever mentioned that! And I didn't propose it, simply suggested it might be something COL wants to do Get your posters straight Then don't have the same exact handle as that other guy!

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:01 AM) No Anderson. What worries me is Phil Rogers mentioned it on Rundown. Seemed a random thing to throw out there. You must not follow Phil Rogers very often.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:00 AM) I would be as well. We never produce hitters so it would be nice to actually see Anderson make his way up and produce for us Then why do you keep proposing this?