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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
Jesse is probably the best Sox insider.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
I really hate Bob Nightensgale.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
I know…all my posts have caveated that. I hope he is going to Charlotte and would dislike it far less.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
Won’t happen, but my god would I lose it if it did.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
Oh 100% agree, but I feel like that’s more applicable in the offseason than for deadline deals. I’m all for buying low on guys, but prefer there is an offseason, spring training, or early regular season period to work on adjustments.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
Don’t scare me like that.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
I think relaying on a guy who has put up wRC+’s of 50 to 60 the past two years to be your short side platoon CF during a playoff push is a fairly risky. Not sure how that’s really a contentious opinion, but to each their own.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
You said we shouldn’t focus too much on results over the past two seasons. My point is when we considering additions at the trade deadline, you should lean in heavier on recent performance because you have two months to right the ship and get production out of said player.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
In regard to who? I don’t think you should be buying projects at the deadline for the most part. That was the point of my post. Jake said it’s dumb to look at past performance when evaluating potential acquisitions and I don’t agree when there are only two moths left in the season. The window to contribute is incredibly short and if “fixes” are required to derive value out of a player then that’s risky. I think Castillo is upgrade over Schultz & Fedde, but how much is the big question. And that comes down to whatever fixes they have in mind. I would have preferred someone with a higher floor (doesn’t require fixes to provide a meaningful upgrade) or a higher ceiling (someone who if fixed can greatly increase your chances in the post season). And for the overall cost I don’t love it, but that’s admittedly more of a 2027 concern. Not sure what part of my opinion you are disagreeing with.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
We literally had Derek Hill for this role and traded him becuase we felt covered in CF against LHP with Pereira & Acuna. It’s fine if they no longer feel that way, but I would have pursued a different option than this. I have zero confidence in this guy batting against lefties in a playoff game. Also, it’s not like this guy came free…we gave up two legitimate prospects. I know it’s fun to downplay Adams around here, but he could have used for some other upgrade. Again, I’m hoping they plan to send him to Charlotte and let him work through s%*# before considering him an option for the major league squad. If this is a hedge for Pereira as the platoon CF and not a replacement I’d feel much better.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
As I posted elsewhere, I’d feel better if he was sent to AAA. Until I know the plan, I assume most players that contenders add at the deadline and who cost meaningful prospects are intended for the major league roster.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
If we raise our payroll by 50% next offseason, Castillo will represent about 1/6 of it in total. Let’s not pretend it’s not a meaningful amount of money.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
For Doyle I think yes. Are we giving a dude who hasn’t hit a lick in two years all the CF at-bats against RHP moving forward? This guy has been Romo levels of bad with the bat. Fixing him won’t be easy in a part time role and during a playoff push and could further exaggerate our problems against LHP. Castillo is less of a risk to current year results and just more of a gamble. My point is when fighting for a playoff spot you typically prioritize guys you are confident can help you win and not reclamation projects. I’m more optimistic they can “fix” Castillo to some extent, just don’t think the value equation made a lot of sense and would have preferred someone with a better floor or ceiling.
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Sox acquire Brenton Doyle - trade Adams and Carlos Vielma (SS)
Yup…it’s hard to process this one without knowing more. Candidly, I’d prefer he go down to AAA and work through adjustments and not be forced onto the major league roster right now. Just hard to imagine trying to fix someone’s swing or approach in a part time role under the pressures of a playoff run makes a lot of sense.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
It’s possible two OFs are moved now.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
The over on 2 1/2 will not only be hit but blown out of the water.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
That’s totally fair normally, but a super risky way to approach the deadline.
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Sox acquire Brenton Doyle - trade Adams and Carlos Vielma (SS)
Nothing says we’re really going for it like acquiring projects at the deadline that require financial & prospect investment!
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Sox acquire Brenton Doyle - trade Adams and Carlos Vielma (SS)
Feels way too cute to me…normally you try to add producing players at the deadline, not a bunch of projects.
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
Doyle is 28 and a negative fWAR player right now. And we gave up a DSL prospect to boot.
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Sox acquire Brenton Doyle - trade Adams and Carlos Vielma (SS)
We traded Hill for scraps to then turn around and give up a legit pitching prospect for this guy? What in the f*** are we doing? How does this make us better short term or long term?
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Sox acquire Brenton Doyle - trade Adams and Carlos Vielma (SS)
Oh I fucking hate this
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Sox acquire Brenton Doyle - trade Adams and Carlos Vielma (SS)
What in the f***?
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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread
Fully agree…would be shocked if he survives the day. The other guy I see as a high possibility of being moved is Mogollon.
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Castillo to Sox for Dominguez, Boston Smith, Nolan Jones per Passan
These are all good points. I’d nit pick a few things. I don’t think Dominguez is completely valueless, so I’m not sure that you can view this as getting Castillo for just $13.5M next year. I’d say Dominguez is worth at least $5M as a middle reliever, so let’s call it $18.5M. For one year that’s not terrible I guess, but it still requires a rebound and I still struggle why we gave up a prospect to take on that risk at that cost.