Chicago White Sox

Believe it should be 8 hours since the deadline is 5pm CST

I still feel like Carlson and a good second piece gets you Detmers. High end positional prospects are clearly valued a ton as we’re seeing here.

The rest of the package is pretty meh though right?

Yes, bigger roster crunch will be in the offseason when more of the 60 Day IL guys need to come off.

I think sent a small amount to them related to Dominguez’s buyout

Nine hours to go until the deadline. Going to be a fascinating day. I still feel like another three trades could happen today. Glad I got a light day of work…lol.

I’m a big Gabe Davis fan, but I do really like this move. In this market, it feels like you’re only paying for one extra year of control with the second & third being more or less house money given his age. Brazoban’s heavy groundball rate is a perfect fit for both our ballpark and our strong infield defense. Getting another high confidence RHP is also a major plus. Taylor, Hicks, Brazobán, Newcomb, Hudson, & Murphy is a really good core of relievers. Richards has been solid as a long reliever and Fedde (despite being negative fWAR) has performed well over the past two months. Do they want to keep two long guys down the stretch? How do Hagen & McDougal factor into the mix? The Sox have basically confirmed they are part of the Major league plan, but right the major league bullpen is completely full with no obvious cuts. I agree with @Jose Abreu that maybe we see Getz sell one of the lefties to free up at least one spot for the young guys.

Glad I want to bed at midnight and before this went down, or I too would have been up all night.

I still think we could see up to three more trades tonight or tomorrow. The Sox are adding a catcher…that’s a 100% happening. My money remains on Stephenson. I think Wolkow plus a backend top 30 feels about right (and many here will hate that). I think there is a 75% chance we add another SP. While a rental feels more likely, the way Getz framed things up earlier today suggests he’d consider languishing some top 100 prospects for a controllable arm. My gut tells me the Sox like Detmers, but don’t want to give up Carlson++. I could them offering up Hagen, McDougal++ and hoping no other team is willing to offer a big time positional prospect. Very unlikely that trade package works but we have seen stranger things. If we ultimately go the rental SP route, it still feels like Holmes is the most likely dude for us. I’d love Mize but feel like the Tigers would tax us hard. Ray makes some sense but he’s not the perfect fit for our park. Rogers & Singer are other possibilities. Prices have been reasonable so far for rental SPs and I think Getz prefers that over further bullpen help given the need for bulk innings. Finally, it feels like we need to make a decision on Hays tomorrow. Are we keeping him over Grichuk or Pereira? If not, does he have any trade value? I’d think some team would take a chance on him if we ate part of his salary. You won’t get much in return, but a trade tomorrow is better than DFA’ing him after the deadline.

Not even close to realistic. A pitching heavy deal would have to include to Hagen & McDougal to have any shot. And regarding the Cease trade, a few publications had Iriarte as a top 100 prospect. As bad as that trade looks right now, you’re underselling it a bit for what it was at the time.

I love you fathom, but you must have daily nightmares about the Cubs trading for every good player.

Burdette with the golden sombrero

Hays with a dong.

Lefty like Reid Detmers? 🤔

Same here. I kind of like John & Plesac, which I’m sure won’t be a positive take here.

Honestly, we needed a legit backup catcher. The Teel injury simply made that addition unavoidable, but sticking with Romo & Quero would have been a mistake regardless.

It was’t reported clearly, but Getz did say they expected to pursue more pitching in his press conference. They will add another SP for sure…the big question is what level of impact.

Dirt cheap so far

But we got control at a price way above what Luis would get as a free agent.

Southisene is the Cubs’ 10th ranked prospect per BA and Bateman is currently unranked (although 21st at Pipeline). The former is a former overslot prep pick in the 4th round ($1M bonus) who is likely limited to 2B and has literally zero power. Sounds like he has really good speed and is a patient hitter, but the upside looks incredibly limited to me. Seems like a pretty meh return. I think Boston Smith is a better prospect than both these guys.

The return is apparent Brett Bateman & Ty Southisene.

Demters is going to fall into our laps.

It was years old and included Luis Castillo as well. Someone was using to joke “Kenny always get his man” in regard to Luis I think.

I really hate the Sox using Adams in relief.

s%*# has got quiet AF…I expect one more major trade at some point tonight.