Chicago White Sox

Yes, ideally you buy low and sell high, but this a professional sport and the goal is to win championships when the opportunities present themselves. And there is no doubt Bonemer is far more important to near term winning than Carlson, even if that means you might be selling low on the kid.

I also don’t get why people are prospect hugging so much. Bonemer should be untouchable and there are a few others we should avoid trading him if possible, but you also have to give to get. If I were Getz, I’d plan on adding two quality SPs between now and the end of next offseason. One of those guys should come from free agency, but realistically the other will come from trade. Don’t know why we can’t add that player now and improve our chances this season as well.

Why doesn’t he make sense?

100% agree. The problem is the peripherals are good and the price will likely reflect that, so he won’t come cheap. Still think he makes a ton of sense.

I think we’re looking at something like the following: Trade #1: CWS get: LHP Reid Detmers LAA get: SS Billy Carlson, C Edgar Quero, & RHP Mason Adams Trade #2: CWS get: LHP Robbie Ray (full contract) SFG get: RHP Pierce George Trade #3: CWS get: C Tyler Stephenson CIN get: IF Kyle Lodise & lottery ticket

Not only is not “not exact” but it’s a completely different scenario. You’re highlighting a rare controllable young player for controllable young player swap. This has no indication on the price of rentals. And we have multiple years in a row of actual trade deadline activity to provide with a sense of rentals will cost.

Rentals don’t command prospects like Carlson outside of someone truly elite like Skubal. I don’t know why people are worried about this…Carlson is only going if it’s for a controllable pitcher.

He reaches and punts? What are you talking about? First off, you are anchoring in too much on prospect rankings from the major publications. The simple reality is prep players come with more variance and most teams are willing to pay a premium for a chance at that higher ceiling. Weingartner has a massive ceiling and that’s what the cost reflects. His draft ranking reflects a much lower floor than many college counterparts in the same range. IMO, going after ceiling should always be the priority in the draft. Second, most teams punt a few picks in the back half off the top 10 because the economics make sense to do so. Why use $200k of slot pool in rounds 9 & 10 when you can get similar players for only $50k of your slot (given the first $150k doesn’t count against anything)? Shirley did this three times to help pay the overslot preps in the 6th & 11th.

None of this is statistically significant given its 28 total plate appearances with the Pirates. The problem is you are actually drawing conclusions off a SSS impacted by a ridiculously low .182 BABIP and declaring the player is “not a very good one”.

He has a .364 xwOBA with the Pirates…that would be third on the Sox behind Murakami & Vargas.

Do the Cubs really want to overpay for control at the deadline?

Per Yahoo’s baseball insider. Never heard of the dude but he’s being referenced at MLBTR so must have some legitimacy. https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/mlb-trade-deadline-buzz-cubs-and-white-sox-in-on-reid-detmers-marlins-not-in-full-sell-mode-and-more-192100230.html

Rentals of this ilk don’t command top 100 or close to that level of prospect. Just look at the last few deadlines…teams are way smarter now. I also truly believe Bonemer is untouchable. I kind of think we see two major trades now. The first one for Detmers and built around Carlson. A second trade for Singer & Stephenson that is quantity over quality.

I just read Fegan’s article on Schultz and it’s wild they are working through major changes to his breaking ball arsenal while also adjusting to the major league level and building up his innings. I have argued that we need to remain patient and finish his development in the majors, but I’m fully pivoting away from that now. He needs to figure out his arsenal and pitch shapes in AAA.

This is the biggest problem. Can’t have Fedde & Schultz both providing such short starts…it wears down the bullpen. I do kind of think they add two SPs and not a reliever at this point.

I have him going to the Angels in my upcoming trade predictions.

He needs an offseason reset…he looked so much better last year

Absolutely disasterous

He’s out by five feet even with his legs IMO

Fire the 3B coach immediately

Need at least one this inning

f***

Huge K

JFzc

Then they don’t have to pay the player. Not sure why people think taking on money next year is a problem.