Chicago White Sox

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Lol…what am I salty about? I like market size parity in sports, some of you guys like having super teams in large markets. Personally I think the NFL is hands down the best sports league and that’s because little shitholes like Green Bay & Buffalo can have consistently good teams. For some reason, certain posters here struggle to understand that market size generally leads to higher revenues and therefore higher spending and that alone does not mean those organizations have a greater desire to win. Very few owners (if any) routinely go into the red because they want to win more than anyone else. A handful of small market owners suck and live off their profits. The trust fund Ricketts do the same, but can still outspend small market teams by 2x to 3x. Some of the best run organizations like the Rays and Guardians simply can’t overcome this level of inequality on a consistent basis. Also, you are really missing the mark with this 48% revenue sharing figure. Each team contributes that much of their local revenue and then it’s redistributed equally across all 30 teams. So no, the Dodgers aren’t giving away 48% of their $330M deal, it would just a subset of that. And lucky for them, about $130M of this TV deal was exempt from revenue sharing last year it’s so significantly less. No matter how you want to slice or dice this, the Dodgers have a material economic advantage almost every other club. No other major sport is built this way and they are all the better for it from a parity perspective. I find it odd that so many Sox fans take this stance on this issue, but they are so salty about Jerry being cheap & risk adverse (rightfully so) that they ignore the broader inequality of the league.

I take it you aren’t a Ryan Clifford fan.

Because I do know the value of their regional TV deal and I can see their attendance figures and average ticket prices. I also know they have made a fuckton through Japan. The Forbes estimates seem to back all this up (beyond not accounting for Ohtani benefit).

I don’t have access their financials…not sure how you do either.

Again, two things can’t both be a problem. Got to stick to one thing and blame that at all costs…it’s the American way!

Don’t get too excited! The only reason Meidroth is not in the OD lineup is because I expect him to be injured. He’ll be right back at 2B and lead off when healthy!

Imagine this lineup in two years: Antonacci, 2B* Teel, CA* Cholowsky, SS C. Montgomery, 3B* Murakami, 1B* Bonemer, LF B. Montgomery, RF# Clifford, DH* Baldwin# / FA / Trade, CF Try to move Quero after the 2026 season for a CF. Carlson replaces Antonacci the following year if all goes to plan (and pushes Roch to 2B). Regardless, there would be a fuckton of potential with that lineup and adding 25 dongs from that Big Red Dog is a key part of it. Make it happen Getz!

Yup, Mets fans are saying the same things. Stearns doesn’t want to commit to that many years. Robert actually makes perfect sense for them. He’s a high risk, high reward player who they can afford to roll the dice on I hopes of narrowing their gap to the Dodgers come the playoffs.

A cap and floor with revenue sharing is what this league needs. I’m sure someone will say “the players will never agree to it”, but I feel like there are enough small market clubs who will take a hard stance this time and such a construct will help the broader player’s union if negotiated fairly.

I think as a NRI with a potential salary of like $2.5M he’d be a great add. I agree, I wouldn’t want to hand him a major league job though.

My guess is they haven’t offered a prospect like Clifford just yet. That being said, they desperately need a CF and there is no one out there of Robert’s caliber. And if we’re being honest, Clifford is a good not great prospect. Enough warts there that he’s theoretically attainable for Robert. The only challenge is the Mets don’t really need money, so absorbing part of his contract probably doesn’t help.

Exactly

They are far and away the most loaded. They make $330M a year on their regional TV deal alone. That alone is more than what Forbes estimates the Pirates made in total revenue in 2024.

Oh I will never forgot. Someone has to hold that dude accountable. And don’t get me wrong, he obviously has some connection, but as with most “insiders” like him they love the attention and tend to overplay their hand.

Again, the Dodgers are spending more based on a larger revenue base than all of their peers. They aren’t absorbing massive losses each year in an attempt to win at all costs. If you want to celebrate their amazing regional TV contract and attribute that to trying harder, by all means have at it.

I won’t accept anything less than Clifford for Robert. Throw his ass in LF against RHP, move Baldwin over to CF, and go with some RF platoon (Pereira along with Kelenic or a cheap LH vet) until Braden is ready. Benintendi shares the DH spot with the two catchers and fills in at LF occasionally. Hill makes the roster to help against LHP and serve as a late inning defensive replacement (god knows we’ll need him with this OF group). I could 100% live with that setup for the season. If the Big Red Dog can’t handle LF, the DH spot will likely open up at some point in the near future and he can shift there. And if Baldwin can’t handle CF (or the OF in general) on a regular basis, he moves to a true UT role playing a little bit everywhere.

If it’s NorthsideBob, we have confirmed he’s not all that he claims to be.

Gotcha…so you dislike market size parity in sports. Unfortunately for everyone else, both are huge problems. And to say a team with significantly more revenue is trying more because they spend more is like saying I’m a better dad because I buy my kids more Christmas gifts than someone with less means. It’s a ridiculous argument that ignores a key underlying element of the broader situation.

Who is saying this?

I will say this…Conforto (or someone like him) makes a lot more sense if you are trading Robert and moving Baldwin to CF.

He’s always been on Heyman’s payroll. Like some of Jon’s posts look like copy & paste directly from Boras.

Theoretically you do it to maximize your payroll space in the near term, but I think GMs are starting to see those landmines fast approaching with past mega deals and trying to be smarter about it.

Also, it’s very clear they want to rotate Benintendi much more frequently through the DH spot. Between that and the Quero/Teel situation, I don’t see any room for another DH. And even if there is room, Sosa is arguably the best player than Vientos? I have no idea why we’d be interested in RH DH type at this point.

Where do you see we need to trade Robert for financial reasons?