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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You’re right, he doesn’t have to…but if he wants to max out his proceeds on a sale then doing something with Ishbia while alive is probably his best option assuming a deal can be structured in a way to avoid the capital gains hit. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He can only front money for the stadium if it comes with a capital call. And if that happens, my guess is he would be looking for a formal transfer of control since is the majority shareholder and would be footing a huge chunk of the bill. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Lol…have you seriously never owned stock? Like what in the f*** are you talking about. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I have no idea why his ownership stake would have any bearing on him being on the hook for a large capital gains hit. If he sells before he dies without the proper deal structure, he will 100% end up taking a big hit that can otherwise be avoided. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
🤣🤣🤣 This is the most insane thing I have ever seen posted at this board. Next time just type out “I hate private equity companies and can’t be rationale ok the subject” instead of typing out a bunch of nonsense. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
So already some news leaking out… -
I don’t disagree, although you have to have some AAA depth on your 40 man roster in the event of injury. Fletcher should be kept until someone better with options comes along and I haven’t seen that person yet. Colas is probably just a function of bringing in a new leader on the hitting side of things and making sure he’s had a proper chance to evaluate the player before moving on.
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Seems good?
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Awesome and thanks for tracking this. Also, where has Baldwin been playing all spring? Has he just been coming off the bench?
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They also need to prove themselves in AAA before they deserve another major league opportunity. Hopefully one of them starts the year strong and forces the issue, but there is zero reason to expect them to be successful this year in the majors when they were bad in AAA last year. Honestly, the only reason Colas is probably even around is he has serious power potential and perhaps Fuller wanted a few months with him to see if there is any hope they can fix him.
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Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The Athletic article stated Ishbia decided to exit his pursuits of the Twins and buy out Sox minority owners after Jerry reached out to him. -
We don’t have credible options in the upper minors which is why we signed three veteran stopgaps. And I’m not sure why you’re naming guys in the lower minors when you’re arguing we should be giving playing time in 2025 to OFs who could be part of the future. Those aren’t related at all. The reality is we will likely rotate some of the IFs in the OF this year. Baldwin has plenty of OF experience and should be an option in the corners. They have already talked about Ramos getting some playing time in LF. I could see the same apply to Sosa potentially. Just because we don’t know their exact plans doesn’t mean they have one. And again, free agency is going to be a solution whether we long-term additions or as a bridge to Wolkow, Zavala, Saucke, etc.
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Canario doesn’t have options so he’s really not a 40 man substitute and Garrett was worse than Fletcher & Colas in AAA last year and is approaching 30. Both guys have absurd contact issues and it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s why Getz has no interest in them because he knows it’s very unlikely he can fix them.
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Why do we need our long-term OF solutions on the 2025 roster? It’s clear that OF is going to require serious additions via free agency even if Braden hits.
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I disagree on Fletcher. Zero reason to cut bait on him. Colas is probably next on the chopping block if I had to guess. Who would you replace them with on the 40 man roster?
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Which guys are you referring to in regard to the test drive comment? The reason Colas and Fletcher are still around is they have options. My guess is Colas will be one of the first guys cut in the coming months if Fuller can’t find a way to quickly unlock his potential. Fletcher probably sticks around longer since he has some defensive value and could factor into the CF mix with Taylor in the event of a Robert trade, but if he fails to hit in Charlotte he too could be shown the door. I don’t really see any evidence that Getz is loyal to these kids given he added three veteran OFs to guaranteed contracts.
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What makes you think Getz is loyal to these guys?
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White Sox asking for "top prospects" for Robert
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He doesn’t and he stole that idea from SoxTalk. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I wasn’t blindly hoping anything…him dropping out of the Twins deal and buying a ton of White Sox shares after a call with Jerry tells me everything I need to know. And I never once said it would be an immediate switch…the deal with the minority investors doesn’t involve Jerry and I have always stated there would be have to be a follow-up transaction for him to take over control. No idea when that will happen, but I seriously doubt he’s going to wait for Jerry to die when there are ways to get around the tax issue for Jerry. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There is literally nothing insightful from this interview. Sounds like a bunch of speculation on Bob’s part. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Why is this the case? Has something new come out that I’m missing? -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Where did Nightengale comment on this by the way? -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
That’s not entirely true though. The Athletic made it very clear that everyone they had talked to believed that Ishbia stopping his efforts to purchase the Twins and instead buying out the minority owners was likely a precursor to a larger deal with full control of the White Sox. They never implied when it would take place, but they certainly suggested it was likely to happen at some point. -
Ishbia increasing minority stake in Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to Fielder Jones's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You are literally nuts. Jerry went to Ishbia with this opportunity. His sons aren’t keeping the team long-term and Hobson is not part of the equation. Absolutely wild that you’re trying to wish your way to a different outcome than the one that’s all but certain happen just because you hate private equity companies.
