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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 01:28 PM) I echo this sentiment. I was just about to write that. I have nothing against Torres but I don't like starters who pitch from the stretch the whole time.

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 03:58 PM) The economy isn't as bad as it was last year, and Kenny is mad. That's why. Except for the fact that sponsership contracts are expiring and attendance is down. $110 M is not gonna happen.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 03:13 PM) $67.05M guaranteed to 9 players (Buehrle, Floyd, Konerko, Linebrink, Peavy, Pierzynski, Ramirez, Rios, Viciedo) We don't have much money to spend. Add in the arb guys which I will estimate at 4.5 for Carlos, 6 for Danks and 8 for Jenks. Thats 85. Plus Betemit 1.75, Pena 1.0, Thorton 2.25, Dye buyout 1.0, and 0.4 for Beckham, Getz, Carrasco and Nix. We are now over 92M. So I ask where is the money to spend? Everyone looks at whats coming off the books but not what is being added.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 12:54 PM) THE SURGE BEGINS I said before this awful road trip that if we are 4 games back after it we have a shot. Amazingly that is still very possible if Detroit doesn't make another great comeback today. Well at least I have talked myself into watching the game tonight.

QUOTE (soxfan-kwman @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 12:15 PM) 1. Pods(LF)/Getz(2B) 2.Beckham, 3B 3.Quentin, RF 4.Thome, DH 5.Konerko, 1B 6. AJ, C 7.Rios, CF 8. Alexei, (SS)/Pods(LF) 9 Getz, (2B)/ Alexei (SS) If this is the lineup then we are all going to be angry again next year. How is this team any better than what we have right now? The defense is still bad and the offense is the same team with probably a worse year from Pods, Aj and Thome.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2009 -> 07:03 PM) An interesting note...right now, we're tied with the Twins for wins but we've lost 2 more games...we'd be sitting at slot 14 right now. There's a big difference between slot 15 and slot 16 if there's any chance that you're going to target a type A free agent in the offseason. you are correct about that but we are not going for any type As. With these latest moves the sox have no financial flexibility. All the money coming off the books went right back for an average major league hitter who has a horrible contract for his skill level. The salary for next year is at 90M once you considered the arb guys and the sox were talking about lowering payroll due to the expiring sponsership contracts. So spending another 10M or more on a free agent is just not happening.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Aug 27, 2009 -> 11:12 AM) We're screwed if Dye doesn't turn it around. Kotsay is horrible. Though if Dye can turn it on for September, he can carry us to the division title. Dye should be hitting 6/7 until then. But it's worth sticking with Dye over substituting Kotsay for him. I agree Kotsay is horrible. Hes not a division winning starting player, hes a Washington Nationals player. And in a sense Ozzie did chose Kotsay over Dye when he pinch hit him last Sunday instead of Dye and he swung at a pitch that bounced in front of the plate. I really never want to see Kotsay in the lineup. Turdy Thirty

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 26, 2009 -> 08:48 PM) Couldn't agree more, especially with runners on base. No one shortened up their swing. You could tell Hawk was pissed. and to think i talked myself into "well we win these next 2 games and we are only 3.5 out, thats not too bad 4 games into this road trip..."

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 26, 2009 -> 07:52 PM) Rios with a base hit. except we know he would have popped up if there was a man on 2nd

QUOTE (Wise Master Buehrle @ Aug 26, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al...eavy-rios_N.htm This is an interesting article. I don't think KW anticipated we would get Rios at all. It seems like it was just a routine waiver claim that went bad. I'm not sure we really wanted him at that price. Does anyone else think that Peavy doesn't sound like a very confident pitcher? Is he just being very careful or is he just not anxious to get out there?

QUOTE (SoxPride56 @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) This is going to be an ugly game... yup and our pen is going to be gassed after this game. pretty smart to have the two worst pitchers going back to back against a patient hitting team.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 11:09 PM) all they need is ONE freaking winning steak. It'd be nice if this was that time, because I wouldn't mind dishing it out to the Yankees and Red Sox and Cubs and Twins and Tigers. Seriously, ONE winning streak is keeping us out. I would agree with you but is there anything this team has shown to make you believe that a winning streak is coming?

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 03:40 PM) That f***ing sucks I still rather have him than Linebrink and hes millions cheaper.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) Jose out dueling Greinke. Loving it! I'm in shock, but very happy! Get him a couple more runs and leave Linebrink on the pine.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 12:39 PM) He's approximately 48-53 years old by my calculations. I have heard that he is actually 42.

Jose has had 6 starts since the break, all of them either bad or downright awful. We either need to beat up on Cy Young 1 or Seattle has to be up on Cy Young 2 for us not to be 4 games out. With Jose and Freddy facing Boston at Fenway we aren't going to gain any ground there either. The lack of a viable 4th and 5th starter the last month is what will cost us the division.

I guess I like the deal for the future. I don't think it helps us this year and actually I think it hurts our chances of making the playoffs this year. So once I get through the next couple months and over the fact we won't be partying in the playoffs then I will be ok with it.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) He's still a huge chip. A team wouldn't not trade for him if it is a sprained ankle. Everything coming out of the Sox camp is that he's day to day. I think that would be a fair trade but I don't do it. It opens up too many holes. We don't know if Becks can play short. We have no 3b if hes moved. I don't think having Nix and Getz full time in the lineup helps. Our offense is struggling and Carlos may not be long for the lineup. As much as I really want Roy, I don't think its smart to trade Alexi.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 01:00 PM) Welcome aboard. I think Danks has all the defensive ability and offensively he's hit. He definitely strikes out more than you like and that might be his issue going forward which hinders him from hitting at the big league level. I feel that most outsiders underrate Danks because he didn't hit for the power everyone expected him to at Texas. With that said Mitchell is a phenomenal athlete and there is no reason he shouldn't also be getting groomed for CF. Thanks! I think Danks has a shot but hes far from a sure thing. I bet Mitchell is more likely to be the CF than Danks, at least offensively. Besides KW doesn't seem to value defense too highly.

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:57 AM) Yeah, there's no doubt we would be fine with Danks in CF for years to come. I just believe that Mitchell has the potential to be an elite CF with more experience with full-time baseball. Brandon Short is another guy that could be a good one in a few years. I think there is significant doubt that Danks will be the CF of the future. I think this board is way too high on him and he has a lot to prove as to whether he would be a good enough hitter to be a full time player. He could very well end up being Brian Anderson part deux.