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The offense was the main problem. The Bullpen knew they werent gonna score in many of the second half games and that put extra pressure on them. The Bullpen was bad at one point but the offense sucked horribly. And the defense was a big part of it too.

Just an idea I want to throw at Sox fans. Since the Cubs have suspended Milton Bradley and are rumored to be willing to pay 80-90% of the rest of his contract, would they be willing to take on Linebrink and the rest of his contract as well? The northsiders need help to their bullpen and Linebrink could help. If the Cubs paid 80% of Bradleys contract- an average over the next 2 years- 2.1 million vs. 5.75 million Pros: .388 OBP average since 2003 .292 Average since 2003 Can DH Save $ 31 years old now, ages 31-33 for the length of his contract. Cons: Big temper issues Uncharacteristic down year this year - hitting .257 but .378 OBP Loss of an arm in the 'pen. Not sure Liney counts here. Just looking for people's responses. I'm not sure if I would do it myself.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 16, 2009 -> 02:27 PM) Is that you Big Hurt?! Actually I like that idea Nope.

Justin Dushcherer would be a nice option, has pitched out of the bullpen before, and also started. But I'm fine with Freddy.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 16, 2009 -> 01:16 PM) This is pretty much word for word what I was thinking LOL!

This opens the door for Big Frank to return and retire as a member of this team. Should help ticket sales as well. U would think Colon frees up 2 or 3 roster spots.

Blue Jays will find a way to win, I hope.

Im happy we get no Felix in Seattle. Looks like we get Morrow, Snell, and Rowland-Smith. No Fister to dominate us again either.

QUOTE (CQMVP @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 03:19 PM) So do we blow this lead? Now

I seen the play, it looked like he got a cramp. He walked/limped off the field, but I think he should be fine, maybe miss 1 start.

Early 2009 Draft Impressions By FutureSox Staff Seven Costanza and Dan Santaromita gave their thoughts and predictions from the 2009 White Sox draft class. Each picked their favorite and least favorite draft pick, a sleeper, a bust candidate, the first to make it to the Majors, an unsigned pick that was most disappointing and their overall early thoughts on the draft. Favorite Pick SC: Ryan Buch I think the Sox got great value with Buch in the 8th round. He’s got the potential to become a mid-rotation starter due to his solid three pitch mix of a low to mid 90’s fastball, excellent curve and improving change. The command of his fastball can be erratic which is what could prevent him from reaching his potential but he’s definitely the prime candidate to be next year’s Dexter Carter or Dan Hudson. I think Buch had value even in the second round so to draft him in the 8th and sign him for slot money looks like a great job by the Sox. Lot’s of projectability here. DS: Kyle Bellamy In terms of best value at the round the player was taken, I really like Bellamy. He dominated at Miami in the tough ACC for 2 years and has the stuff and deception with his sidearm delivery to fly through the minors (he is already doing very well in Kannapolis). His high 80s fastball has good sink and his slider is effective. His strikeout to walk ratio is spectacular so far, which is somewhat expected because he was a very advanced reliever out of college. It might be generous to say his upside is as a setup man, but chances are good he will be the first member of this White Sox draft class to make it to the Majors. Least Favorite Pick SC: Justin Collop There are definitely things to like about Collop; he’s athletic, has a fast arm and three workable pitches when he’s on but he’s been very inconsistent, his command isn’t good and his secondary pitches fell off during the second half of the season resulting in Collop getting hit hard. There’s too much uncertainty and not enough upside in Collop for me to call this pick anything other than a reach. I think Collop is the type of prospect that you take a flier on in the 10-14 round range, not the 6th. DS: Matt Hopps I’ll put Hopps in the never to interview with us category. He signed for well under slot and has only been pitching for a few years so there is projectability for his age (23), but I think the odds are against him more than the rest of the top 10 picks. The term least favorite fits best because I don’t dislike the pick, it was the 9th round after all, but I feel that there is the least to like about Hopps relative to other somewhat high picks. Biggest Sleeper SC: Dan Black The 14th rounder Black hasn’t had the best of results in the early going, but I really like his combination of plus power and fantastic plate discipline. He doesn’t have a position and has been playing a lot of first base, it’s unfortunate that he couldn’t stick at the position he played a lot in college, that being catcher, because then he really would be a prospect. But as it is I believe in the bat, even at first, so hopefully Dan Black doesn’t prove me wrong. DS: Kyle Colligan Colligan is an athletic outfielder, something the Sox seemed to grab a lot of this draft, and has done well at Great Falls this year. He did well in the Big 12 at Texas A&M and can play a solid centerfield while hitting for some pop. He’s been getting on base at a great clip with the Voyagers this season, living up to my own expectations of him. He is an advanced hitter that shouldn’t have too much trouble with A ball pitching in 2010. I’m not expecting him to set the world on fire, but he should do well. For a 12th rounder, I think he has the ability to be an under the radar prospect that does well without much notice. Most Likely to Bust SC: Trayce Thompson Thompson was probably my second favourite pick of the whole draft behind Buch, but there is a huge amount of bust potential with Trayce. He’s very raw and has a long swing leading to a lot of strikeouts. Those are two big red flags for a prospect, but there is also an awful lot to like about Trayce. If he puts it all together Thompson could become a prototypical right fielder with great power, arm strength and solid defense, however it will almost certainly take him a long time to get there. DS: Trayce Thompson He is the highest high schooler the Sox selected and he is widely considered a raw prospect. I love the pick and the upside, but by definition a raw player is more likely to bust than most. He’s a ways away from the Majors if he gets there so fans will need to be patient with his development. It will be interesting to see if Thompson starts next year in Kannapolis or if the Sox are going to take it slowly with him and have him in extended spring training before rookie ball. First to the Majors SC: Kyle Bellamy Bellamy was a dominant reliever for the Hurricanes. He’s very polished and gets lots of ground balls with a good amount of strikeouts from his two-seam fastball and sweeping slider, both of which he has great command of. He was described by one prospect evaluator as “Death on right handers” and ultimately may have to settle for a job as a ROOGY, although he could potentially become a late inning reliever, possibly even a closer. Unlike last years supposed fast riser Drew O’Neil, Bellamy made light work of rookie ball and I don’t think an assignment to Birmingham for the start of next year would be too aggressive, although Winston-Salem is his more likely destination. DS: Kyle Bellamy My reasoning for this is mostly why I said he was my favorite pick. He was a first-team All-American in college and has the stuff to dominate A ball hitters. Great sink on his pitches leads to a great groundball rate and he has been striking guys out so far in the minors. Sidearm guys seem to move quickly in general and I don’t think Bellamy will be an exception to that. The One That Got Away SC: Bryan Morgado There were better prospects that the Sox failed to sign but Morgado would have filled the biggest need, that need being left-handed pitching prospects which aren’t still 4 years away. Morgado struggled a lot with his command while at Tennessee which stopped him pitching up to his stuff (he has a first round arm). The White Sox don’t exactly have the best reputation for developing prospects but they’ve done well just recently and it would have been interesting to see what they could have done with Morgado. DS: Justin Jones Morgado is the easier pick here because he was drafted in the 3rd round, but I really started to like Jones based on the things I was reading about him after the draft. Word was his velocity was improving and he supposedly had a very good curveball. He seemed like a high upside pick for the 7th round, but he probably realized that too and decided college would improve his draft stock 3 years from now. It’s hard to argue with that and the White Sox have been known to redraft players (Chris Getz, Jordan Danks, Ricky Brooks) so maybe we will see the same with Jones down the road. It seems like the Sox weren’t going to go over slot on any of their draftees, which is acceptable as long as the talent they did sign makes up for it. Overall Thoughts SC: I liked a lot of picks that were made but I wonder if there’s enough impact talent here because outside of Jared Mitchell, Thompson, Josh Phegley and Buch I don’t see anyone who could become a significantly above average starter. The Sox really could have done with signing one or more of the Justin Jones, Bryan Morgado and Dane Williams trio after dealing a lot of their pitching depth in the Peavy trade, but unfortunately they were not able to, so they will have to wait for either off-season trades or next year’s draft to plug this hole in the system. I do like the direction that the organisation seems to be taking with their draft mentality, moving away from the “safer” picks such as Broadway and McCulloch a few years ago and moving towards higher risk, higher reward picks such as Mitchell and Thompson. DS: The Sox clearly went after athletes in this draft. Mitchell, Thompson, Colligan and Nick Ciolli all played center field with their teams this year. The Sox could use some infield depth in the minors now, but it’s good to see outfield athleticism as a priority. I like David Holmberg and Matt Heidenreich as projectable arms, but there weren’t any good polished starting pitchers signed by the Sox. Morgado would have been helped that, but I’m worried about his control. It’s way too early to say much of anything about this draft in terms of quality yet, but on paper it’s easier to like the hitters (even in the lower rounds) more than the pitching. Though it will be interesting to see how the top high school picks develop. http://futuresox.com/frontpage/?p=1495

guillen gives Pierzynski his blessing to charge Tomko if Tomko hits him on purpose http://twitter.com/MDGonzales Oz said if AJ gets hit by Tomko the team has his back. http://twitter.com/cst_sox

here it is http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms...er8-14/11582494

Offer arb and if he accepts, trade him and pay some salary, the better the propects, the more we pay, bullpen arms are hard to come by nowadays, I'm sure someone will bite.

How about Nick Johnson for DH next year? Sure he doesnt hit the long ball like Thome, but he can play first to give Konerko a break at times, and he got an average of .300 and his obp is .421 this year. What do u guys think?

Nice DP!

Mark Kotsay 2 run single 3-1 WHITE sox!

Its dead here today. but GO SOX! 1-1 and threatening for more.

HE GONE!

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 5, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) Good find, thanks buddy. If Gonzo is right on that, and Freddy continues to post quality starts, it's a no-brainer. No prob. I agree, it is a no-brainer.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 5, 2009 -> 10:28 PM) Do you have a link on that? I went back into the Garcia thread, and couldn't find anything. Thats a big deal IMO. While Freddy has been loyal to this club, if he continues to post these types of numbers, there are going to be a few teams calling for his services. At 33, I could see a team giving him a 2 year deal, which I would hope the Sox wouldn't match given the depth they seem to have acquired for the back-end of the rotation. Again, I would assume Garcia would like to stay with the Sox, but if all they offer is an invite for spring with a chance to make the rotation, his agent would be stupid not to shop him to other teams. One pitcher who could get an extended look from the Sox in September is Freddy Garcia, who pitched 6 1/3 innings of three-run ball Tuesday in his second start. The Sox hold a $1 million option on Garcia, 34, for 2010 that includes $2 million in incentives based on innings pitched. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...,0,626806.story I like Freddy for next year until he cant go anymore.

Good for Jose. I hope he helps the Rockies down the stretch.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 03:34 PM) His trade value may never be higher. Get 'er done, Kenny! I agree. My gut feeling is that this was a showcase game for Torres pitching vs. the NL. It wouldnt surprise me if a couple NL teams were interested in him before/after this game.

Well, we won our World Series today. Im happy!