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Damnit. I just need to ignore all rumors until tomorrow. Peavy and Rios will probably go down to the wire.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:30 PM) *Fake account* god damn I hate when that happens ??

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:25 PM) I'm surprised Atlanta hasn't checked back in. Beachy was awful last night. Maybe they think they have their division locked up and their top 3 are good enough. It was his first start back and Maholm is coming back soon. Would be a overreaction to bench him at this point, considering the haul Hahn wants for Peavy.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:21 PM) 101 ESPN just said STL is out on Peavy. I won't believe until I see it from an unconfirmed twitter account with less then 50 followers who hasn't tweeted since December.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:22 PM) Can't give specifics, too many moving parts. I can say that they Sox are looking for young pitching or hitting, possibly both. Also, a few of the names being discussed are players you've heard of before or maybe not, depends. Can you confirm the players coming back to the Sox are indeed, baseball players and not some other variety?? Anxiously awaiting your response

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 02:37 PM) Would a package of Kennedy, Kubel, Davidson, Owings, and Holmberg be too much for Peavy and Lindstrom or just Peavy? AZ would never do that. I would be ecstatic if we got Davidson, Owens and Holmberg. Makes no sense to acquire older players.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) I am not sure what the fascination with Holmberg is around here. Is it because he was a former Sox farmhand? People like names they know I guess. His 6.2 K/9 in AA doesn't really excite me. I agree. He's going to be a OK rotation starter, not a ton of upside.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) Let's just say that if the end of the world happens and Hahn gets Skaggs, Davidson, Owens and Taillon for Peavy, Rios and Ramirez, then Hahn has a job for life here. Ha! Why not Adams and Martinez from St. Louis too?

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 02:29 PM) our line-up card should be getting release so we should know what is going on, whether a trade or we just send down a pitcher I am sure they will include everyone. It's when they get scratched is the time to get excited

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) Skaggs and Owings would be a great start to a trade Davidson and Owens are blocked in AZ by Prado and Didi. So possible we could pry them loose for Peavy and someone?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:58 PM) Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 4m rios makes sense for #pirates. but deal is not close at this time, i hear. https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS Bummer. That deal needs to get done. Seems like Pittsburgh is the last team that wants Rios and maybe they have realized it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:46 PM) He was never good. He was 100% a product of Petco park. If you look at this home/away splits, he was bad away from San Diego. Still his ERA over three years in SD was under 4. Not bad. I'm not saying Clayton Richard is a frontline starter, that's why you trade him for a guy like Peavy.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) I think most everyone consider Q better than a solid number 3 at this point. Santiago I would say has better potential than that. As for now I wouldn't label him as an innings eater since the one thing preventing him from the top of the rotation is his lack of ability to eat innings. I've always been in favor of giving Santiago a chance to start. Starting is the most valuable thing a pitcher can do, gives them the best chance to impact the game. It will be exciting to see if he can continue his success starting over the course of a season. Same for Q, this is his first full year starting. See where it pans out with a larger sample size.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:41 PM) That is exactly what is being done from the sounds of it. Right. Didn't know if that was illegal at a certain time period or something.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) Then neither is Peavy. Because I would take his potential, growing stamina/endurance and multiple out pitch arsenal over Jake Peavy any day of the week, if it was finding a starting pitcher to build the rotation around (after Sale) in 2015/16. Put Quintana and Santiago in the NL West or NL Central and they'd nearly be Cy Young candidates. I think a good comparison would be Clayton Richard. The change of scenery did him well and he was a solid middle of the rotation guy in SD. Not a Cy Young candidate, but good.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:30 PM) Quintana is definitely a 2-3 and Santiago's ceiling is up in the air. Lefties that throw 95 with his stuff do not grow on trees. If Hector learns to get lefties out he can really be a stud. Maybe not a #1 but definitely a #2. I think our definitions of #1's and #2's are different. I would venture a guess that just about any scout you ask would consider Q is a solid #3 and Santiago an innings-eater back of the rotation type of guy. Considering how we acquired those guys, that is unbelievably good

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:30 PM) They're tweeting now that Peavy, Rios and Alexei all go to Pirates. "They" are unreliable tweeters. But heck, who is reliable? Certainly not Ken Rosenthal We'd have to eat some money, but if it means getting back Tallion and Glasnow...heck yeah!

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:27 PM) Kubel? LOL LOL Phil Rodgers is totally oblivious. The trades he used to propose in his column were completely nonsensical.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:23 PM) Remember when Hector Santiago and Jose Quintana were projected as frontline starters? Yeah me neither. They still aren't

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:15 PM) Interesting. What's the rule on that; before first pitch? Can't they just officially keep him in Charlotte and stash him in a Cleveland hotel room? Does it matter where the player is geographically? It's really a mute point, somebody (Peavy,Lindstrom etc) is going to go today or tomorrow but still.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) https://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/362276040808202240 No, Phil. Go away. Yeahhhhh he sucks.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:16 PM) I don't think anyone said it was easy. Look at the Sox without PK. This is why it will take a player the quality of Peavy to get him. I agree with you, just not sold on Adams being a consistent middle of the order bat. His stats have been pretty average since his insane April. Pitching depth is always needed/valuable. More of a priority in my opinion.

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:07 PM) Rosenthal says to not rule out Dbacks on Peavy. Keep in mind Rosenthal has always been all over the White Sox when it comes to trades Love it! Two divisional rivals, Boston and now Arizona. Keep it up Hahn!

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) There will be at least one pitcher coming to the Sox in any deal involving Peavy. Exactly. I am as excited about Erik Johnson as anyone, but beyond him, we have no pitching prospects who project as a frontline starter.