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QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Oct 8, 2014 -> 11:20 AM) Funny thing I saw in this article - Bevington...allowed Albert Belle to have a traveling entourage but then kicked Ozzie Guillen's kids out of the clubhouse. Maybe he wasn't ALL bad. I never understood why other players would allow one guy to have an entourage hanging around the clubhouse, if that is indeed what went on.

I had forgotten about some of the Bevington era flaws. That would be an interesting thread all by itself.

Here's an old article on White Sox of 20+ years ago. http://www.southsidesox.com/2013/2/24/4022...s-what-happened

What's the amount needed for the QO status this year? Gotta be close to $15 large.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 11:29 PM) cmon, does anybody on this board really think that the sox would trade Sale? Maybe in his last option year if they are still a 70-75 win team. Not now.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 5, 2014 -> 08:42 AM) Can't be traded before June anyway, can he? Or did that rule get changed? One year from signing date, IIRC.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) Just to brainstorm...if injury is his issue, could he survive as a full time DH? Hit well enough and maybe play the field 20ish games a season or something like that? Cargo is Gold Glove OF; don't want to DH him. Last two seasons he's had finger problems, including a cyst that had to be taken out. How hard is it to fix a damn finger? The reason his road numbers are worse is because Coors Field causes an adjustment to be made when they go on the road. If he played in Chicago, he wouldn't have that problem. Cargo is an MVP waiting to happen. Hahn should go after him. I have no idea what kind of pitching package they would want, but Hahn should find out.

Back to Billy Beane, he gave up too mcuh for Smardj....a.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 09:03 PM) Being a hitting coach is one of those jobs asking to get fired. I think they are more important in the minor league system. I bet the Sox don't have any good ones there. If you don't know their names, how can you criticize them?

De Aza was going to be gone in 2015 anyway. No way Sox would let him go to arbitration and be stuck with him again for an entire season at an even higher salary. If he gets a few hits for Baltimore, who cares?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 1, 2014 -> 08:38 AM) This thread is going as expected. What? Another warning?

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Oct 1, 2014 -> 12:13 AM) But then Downs put up a 3.14 ERA with the Royals. The only logical explanation is that Hahn was a terrible GM when he got Downs because of the possibility that Ventura would make him pitch bad but then Ned Yost would make him pitch good. The smarter move was bringing on Noesi because Ventura would make him pitch pretty well and be a very valuable innings-eater. But for the life of me, I can't figure out why they don't just tell ALL of these crapshoot, scrapheap no money low-risk players to play well. Vance, I had to read your post a couple of times before I understood it. Then I laughed. Back to Downs.....injured in ST, pitched when not ready, stunk, had a decent stretch of games, then stunk again, DFA'd, picked up by Royals -- 3.14, blah, blah, blah. Just so you know, he is not on the playoff roster, at least the wild card game.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2014093...orts/140939832/ Interesting read to see some specific spots he talks about adding to. Sox would be a lot closer (and richer) if it were not for KW.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 1, 2014 -> 04:53 AM) I have been giving this some thought, but if Robin Ventura were no longer the manager of the team, I would want the Sox to hire Bo Porter. I really liked what he did with the Astros and he should still be managing the team. I think you should give it some more thought.

...No longer the Braves' Hitting Coach.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 30, 2014 -> 04:52 PM) Or Matt Kemp, even after what he did the final two months of the season. The Dodgers still need to find playing time for Pederson, Kemp and Puig don't get along so well, and they'd save a lot of money trading Kemp compared to Ethier/Crawford. That said, they're also not stupid. They'll trade Ethier to any team who wants to take on that contract. If Matt Kemp is available without giving up too much, I would jump on him like a tall dog and pay him his $20 large a year. He sure looked healthy to me when I saw him. He played in 150 games and finished strong. Put him back to back with Abreu, and they would hit 75 HR's together.

QUOTE (daggins @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 10:15 PM) It was a stipulation of the contract. Compensation goes up to 26.5 mil if he gets super two status. His contract is so ludicrously under market that I am not even close to upset about this. After my post, I read the Super 2 explanation on Baseball Reference. Thanks.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 07:38 PM) https://twitter.com/timdierkes/status/516714980499292161 timdierkes ‏@timdierkes This year's Super Two cutoff is looking like 2.133. Not official yet. 2.133 means Marwin Gonzalez and Javy Guerra are last ones in, and Jose Quintana's salaries escalate. Quintana signed a 5 year contract. Why would his salary go up?

Tony is cleaning house.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 08:48 AM) IIRC, that same poster also advocates for 26 year old AA journeymen to be promoted and gives up on 19 and 20 year old kids in single-A who don't immediately set the world on fire so there's also that Who? Courtney Hawkins? I haven't given up on him. Last year, say mid-season 2013 and beyond, I criticized fellow posters for ranking him so high. He improved a bunch this year, and I don't have as much disagreement with where others rank him now. I never called him a 'bust'; others did. Face it, he had a lousy year in 2013. Much better in 2014. Next year is huge for him. I'm pulling for him. I assume the 26 year old journeyman is Wilkins. Sure, I wanted him promoted to see what he could do. Lots of posters here wanted that. What does that have to do with Hawkins or the Reed/Davidson deal?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 24, 2014 -> 01:35 PM) But the White Sox did replace Reed as closer and their current closer, Jake Petricka, has been just as effective as Reed was and has been. Damage was already done by the time Petricka got the gig.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) hey greg, let me flip this on you, would you have made the reed for Davidson trade? the first initial trade. were you in favor of the trade? IIRC, there was only one poster here who openly disagreed with the trade in the first 24 hours of its aftermath.

Good stuff there, Ultimate.

That error last night should have been a hit, IMO.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 12:52 PM) I don't have an issue with the trade. I would just like to know what other offers he had, if any, for Reed. Same here. If Hahn wanted to shop Reed, he could have gotten a lot more, IMO. I would love to know how the trade evolved.