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QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 01:45 AM) Then why do you infer that Ozzie will win X WS titles with Florida and that he will be inducted into the Hall of Fame? That is, if managers are all the same and the players are everything, why is it that Ozzie should get recognition for the WS he will supposedly win? If all Managers are the same, we don't need managers and all of them should be fired immediately for not trying to be the best manager they can be.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 07:14 PM) I will admit I didn't read the article. But Omar can kiss my ass and good riddance. You're like 60 and shouldn't be playing that much anyway. Go play bingo or something. I like Omar, but this.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 10:33 AM) I believe this has been overlooked in this thread. Thank you.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 12:57 AM) I'm anxiously waiting for NBA 2K12 to release this Tuesday. I have it Pre-Ordered so I can ensure I get the Run-TMC Warriors and the Webber Kings.

Phil Jackson would be a surprise. Or if the lockout is long enough, Thibs.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 01:12 AM) Most people will never see $3.5 million in their lifetime, much less make it in ONE year. But Ozzie would die poor.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:29 PM) Marty does sound like Cowley, based on the e-mails I've gotten in response to something I wrote to him. E-mails that consist of me calling him a lot of unpleasant things. I remember reading some of those. Good times, good times.

Rock, got a catalog of your source?

I have no doubt Marty is Cowley or his guy on 35th is Cowley. He brought him up in defense when we were talking about how Rock is generally spot on and Marty's guy seemed unproven...he mentioned Cowley "breaking" the story on a riff we've all known about for years.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) No. Touche.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 10:13 AM) Example? Didn't your guy tell us that Ozzie was staying?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 10:05 AM) I do not give one damn whether you believe any of it or not. If you don't like me, you don't believe me, or at least you don't WANT to believe me. Seems to be the way it goes around here. No, it just seems your guy hasn't been right at all.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 11:57 PM) Santos does not have a closer's mentality. He blows back-breaking games I would like to see him and Sale in the rotation and the sox just go after someone experienced at closing Rotation? I suggested it once due to low mileage on his arm, but we need a closer, not another starter.

Ozzie leaves and everyone gets deals. But this is good for the Sox.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 02:35 PM) There is absolutely zero evidence that Reinsdorf was against signing Dunn.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 02:23 PM) I get tired of the myth that Kenny has such little say in this organization. I get tired of the myth that Ozzie got fired.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) not gonna name names, but rhymes with fellpockinNB

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) I just wet myself. Hope it is true. Pleeeeeease.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) The Francona and guillen situations kind of mirror each other. The pressure in Boston has to be immense. Francona's personality I think would be a breath of fresh air in the White Sox clubhouse. Although anybody would seem like a breath of fresh air at this point. OBP Walker .326 as low as .309 in his only full season Baines .356 as high as .409 Baines has a Charly Lau approach which I love in a hitter and here is that approach which I think the Sox need A balanced, workable stance; Rhythm and movement in the stance (as opposed to standing still); A good weight shift from a firm rigid backside to a firm rigid frontside; Striding with the front toe closed; Having the bat in the launching position as soon as the front foot touches down; Making the stride a positive, aggressive motion toward the pitcher; A tension-free swing; Hitting through the ball; Hit the ball where it is pitched, rather than try to direct it. If Baines could teach a Lau-like approach, I'm all game for that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Oney, Ozzie Jr, and Joe Cowley. Victory, someone, Marty?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) ROFL at "banged Sandburg's wife" under PROs.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 05:30 AM) Ozzie was working in a situation that happens to a lot of employees, you don't get along with your boss. And as been noted in other threads, they may never have gotten along. On top of that your boss continues to send employees into your department that are not always what you ask for, or what you need. Most of your employees seem to like you, but your boss is their boss too, and that conflicts loyalties on their part. Meanwhile there is another company that has tried to hire you several times. Your boss doesn't seem to want you, this other company wants you a lot, and you sit there. Frustrated. You hate the company you work for, but love most of the people you are working with. You even love the owner, even though he isn't coming to your rescue. Then it appears there is an end in sight. However it will happen after the company that really wants you already has someone. Your boss is going to get his final revenge, you will be unemployed with no obvious job opportunity available. You do like having an income, the awards and s*** you earned while working for the company are nice, and you'd like to earn a few more, but money in the bank pays for food, raiment, and shelter. So what's your only way out? ----------- I always predicted Oz would be fired for some Al Campanis type comment. I easily see his career going in one of two directions. A Tony La Russa type, a long time in Florida, or a spectacular explosion of his mouth. Either way, thank you Oz. You left a season or two too late. Can we STOP acting like Ozzie would have died poor if he left the Sox and had to go be an analyst for Fox or something? The guy has probably over $40M in career earnings. Give me a f***ing break. Your analogy makes sense for normal jobs, but when Ozzie is already set for life, no, it doesn't work. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 07:55 AM) I take the "the" out of "psychotherapist". LOL.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 11:41 AM) My guy on 35th told me back in August that LaRussa returning was predicated on Williams not being GM. But Oney is on 1501 Marlins Way now...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 02:19 AM) I hate that Phelps guy, though. Surprised this Cowley story isn't getting commented upon. Yes, KW was the reason Ozzie left. I agree with Cowley's sentiments, especially the last line. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...asnt-there.html Because Cowley is a terrible journalist.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 02:01 AM) Don't hate the man. hate the mouth. Greg, I like you, I really do. But this is the dumbest sentence I've ever seen on SoxTalk. The mouth is part of the man. And I say the fans at the stadium, when he was a player. As a player, there was a reason kids loved him, autographs and he would give plenty. I doubt he did that as manager.