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QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) Mark deserves to go to the place that offers him the most money. I really don't see how anyone could argue otherwise. He's done everything you can do for us. And I dont even put this into the equation, but some can also look at the fact that he already has given us a hometown discount. On top of everything. He already did? In 2006 he had the worst year of his career, but since he was headed for free agency they gave him a deal that basically at market value. ANd he has done everything. It's just if he goes back on his word, I'll feel betrayed. Simple as that.

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QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) 3/$39 million with an option for a fourth year. A creative contract like Konerko's would be nice to save some money up front until a bad contract or two goes away. I'd go 4/$60, but with deferred pay like Paulie's, and also a 5th mutual option year. But I know he's not worth that. I just hate the thought of losing him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 11:52 AM) BSLillibridge Brent Lillibridge Had final X-ray. My hand somehow has become stronger... Doctor is astounded... #whatdoesntkillmemakesmestronger #allhealed 50 HR next year for the Lillibomber.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 11:54 AM) Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein The White Sox have resigned LHP Leyson Septimo, who still throws very very hard and doesn't really do much else. He sounds like a Roman Emperor...got that going for him.

If Mark goes anywhere other than St. Louis or here, I'll feel mad betrayed. I really hope this is to gauge his market price, then come back to the Sox to match.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 08:31 AM) I apparently had a fun time drunk posting on ST Saturday night/Sunday morning. Guess I got bored when all my friends passed out on me. In terms of drunk poster hilarity... Heads > You > J4L > Wite

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 11:51 AM) I have little problem with cocky attitudes, getting press attention, pretending you're an underdog, pretending you're #1 all the time, whatever. I have a problem with the cheap shots. The Moore and Cutler helmet attacks were just wrong.

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) I'm amazed that on this board, and many other pages where the Bears are the topic of discussion, there is this huge battle with the Lions that I find quite silly. Articles about is this the new rivalry, articles about how Johnson is so afraid of Peppers now. It's almost as if the Bears and their fans have to get so much joy beating up there little brother who found some success recently, because they know they can't beat up the real team which is the Packers....... It's almost like by starting 5-0 they stole the Bears candy of being the 2nd best in the division, and it really pissed the Bears off........shouldn't they be more pissed and start trying to be more competitive with Green Bay? Maybe stop with all this we respect them they respect us and get angry and pissed with the Pack? I'm a 49ers fan, and they have had a great year so far which has been a blast watching after so many years of pure crap. But as good as they've been, reality is there slim to none chance they can compete with Green Bay right now. Well, that and the whole Stafford trying to decapitate D.J. Moore thing.

Floyd, Danks, Quentin, Thornton all to the Red Sox for all of their Top 10 prospects and Reddick if he doesn't count.

I'm beginning to think KW is waiting until the Winter Meetings, to gauge if he can get rid of Danks or Floyd.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 15, 2011 -> 03:56 PM) Halladay last season. In the AL, Johan was the last one in 2004 & 2006.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Nov 15, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) Lance Briggs is in that Hall of Very Good. I dont see him getting in, and I'm not sure he really should. Well, if he gets 2 more Pro Bowls...which he looks like he can...that'd be 8. And eight Pro Bowls is nothing to sneeze at.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Nov 15, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) Lovie has 3. Peppers is probably bound for the HoF. Speaking of Pep, gotta give Angelo credit for that one. A mega contract that actually justifies itself is pretty rare. 4. Peppers, Urlacher, Briggs, Hester.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) Has anyone else noticed that most of the time KW goes to his new favorite line.,"as long as I sit in this chair", he's usually standing up?

Also, Kevin Martin is pissed about no vote for everyone. He has gained my respect this lockout.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) complete destruction of their fanbases? It'll happen anyway when two nba seasons are gone.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 05:43 PM) Now that would be funny. The owners don't NEED their franchises. They've made their money elsewhere. The players on the other hand...well...good luck with your day to day jobs. Seriously, I might love that. Then just reform it once the players go broke and cave. The Union can do that, so why not the league.

I'd be mad, but laugh for eternity if the owners right now came out and said "We are now disbanding the NBA. Go get your Masters Degrees guys!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) His contract pays him $25.244 million this year. KG and Pierce were getting nice money too. Doesn't change the fact that Kobe knew this deal was the best they'd get. Him, Ray, and a few other can get masters.

@DarnellMayberry Darnell Mayberry Lots of players were smiling and joking just before the start of the news conference. Kobe Bryant looked pissed.

Stern basically said the season is dead, just not in those words.

Stern sounds like he's ready to go to war by letting the players, Kessler, and Hunter destroy themselves. And they will.

So, how long before half the league goes broke, realizing KG and Pierce led them like sheep to slaughter? Who gets fat? My guess is Beasley.