January 19, 201214 yr http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/...false-identity/ Jorge Arangure of ESPN.com passes along word from reporter Yancen Pujols that Indians right-hander Fausto Carmona was arrested in the Dominican Republic and is being charged with using a false identity. According to Pujols, Dominican police arrested Carmona–whose real name is apparently Roberto Hernandez Heredia–while he was leaving the American consulate after renewing his visa. Keeping you up to date on Dominican Pitcher name changes: Leo Nunez = Juan Carlos Oviedo Fausto Carmona = Roberto Hernandez Heredia
January 19, 201214 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/...false-identity/ Keeping you up to date on Dominican Pitcher name changes: Leo Nunez = Juan Carlos Oviedo Fausto Carmona = Roberto Hernandez Heredia There is an update to the article which states that Carmona is actually 31, not 28...
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) Hawk Harrelson @NotHawk Fausto Carmona's actual name is s***ty Pitcher.
January 20, 201214 yr Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 09:36 PM) Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. What if Alexei was really Dayan and Dayan, Alexei?
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) What if Alexei was really Dayan and Dayan, Alexei? Exploding heads.
January 20, 201214 yr Guess he's going to often be confused with the former Sox closer unless he goes by Heredia, like GIL.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. Farmio said Alexei was 33 last season.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) Every time something like this comes out, I fear Alexei is really like 32 and Viciedo is like 26. Although Viciedo actually looks baby-faced. Alexei.....not so much. Usually it's the Dominicans with the false information not the Cubans.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:14 AM) Usually it's the Dominicans with the false information not the Cubans. The Cubans usually have the false ages though. El Duque and Jose Contreras come to mind.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:18 AM) The Cubans usually have the false ages though. El Duque and Jose Contreras come to mind. I generally only think of Dominicans with false ages, and false names for that matter. Santiago Casilla was Jairo Garcia, Juan Carlos Oviedo was Leo Nunez, whatever Roberto Hernandez Heredia was Fausto Carmona, and Vladimir Guerrero, not that long ago, was determined to be 1 year older than he was. I'm sure I'm missing quite a few as well. I think, to gain citizenship within the Dominican Republic, and then to gain a work visa through the United States, it's going to take a damn safe certification. Some may have gotten by it before 9/11, but I don't see it anymore. In fact, I think the Sox are smart in signing Cuban players because their ages are almost certain to be correct.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 07:17 PM) Is there any suspension ramifications from the MLB for this? There hasn't been before.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:14 AM) Usually it's the Dominicans with the false information not the Cubans. It is actually easier for the Cubans now, because there is no one to verify info with. The governments don't have any kind of a relationship to use for the verification purpose. If a person tells a team they are 21, how do you disprove it?
January 20, 201214 yr hoynsie paul hoynes #Indians could void Fausto Carmona's contract, but that appears unlikely. But Carmona has to get to U.S. to get paid this year.
January 20, 201214 yr hoynsie paul hoynes Fausto Carmona ordered not to leave Dominican Repulic. Will be monitored by court. #Indians.
January 20, 201214 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) hoynsie paul hoynes Fausto Carmona ordered not to leave Dominican Repulic. Will be monitored by court. #Indians. The Sox, Royals, Twins, & Tigers should chip in some money for his legal team. If he can't make it back to the US, the Indians might fill his rotation spot with a pitcher who might actually be good.
January 21, 201214 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2012 -> 07:40 AM) I generally only think of Dominicans with false ages, and false names for that matter. Santiago Casilla was Jairo Garcia, Juan Carlos Oviedo was Leo Nunez, whatever Roberto Hernandez Heredia was Fausto Carmona, and Vladimir Guerrero, not that long ago, was determined to be 1 year older than he was. I'm sure I'm missing quite a few as well. I think, to gain citizenship within the Dominican Republic, and then to gain a work visa through the United States, it's going to take a damn safe certification. Some may have gotten by it before 9/11, but I don't see it anymore. In fact, I think the Sox are smart in signing Cuban players because their ages are almost certain to be correct. What kind of certification do you really think guys like Alexei and Contreras and El Duque really provide? Do you really think Cuba would cooperate and provide that information?
January 24, 201214 yr MLBastian Jordan Bastian Per Associated Press, citing manager Manny Acta, CLE expecting Fausto Carmona/Roberto Hernandez to miss Spring Training. No surprise there.
January 26, 201214 yr hoynsie paul hoynes #Indians place Roberto Hernandez Heredia, aka Fausto Carmona, on restricted list. Doesn't count against 40-man. No pay until he reports.
January 28, 201214 yr White Sox Talk WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk Farmio says Esteban Yan made himself older on his birth certificate. Esteban Yan! #SoxFest 2 hours ago WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk Laumann: "For [Carmona] to make it as long as he did through the system and the checks and balances, it's an aberration." #SoxFest 2 hours ago
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