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QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 12:27 AM) I will still never understand why Bobby (and the sox brass) felt he needed to be a "true pitcher." He is a closer. This dude has like 6 god damn pitches in his arsenal, that most of the time, aren't needed. Most closers in the game have 2, maybe 3 solid/good/great pitches to get guys out with. (unless your name is Mariano, but he is a freak) He would have been perfectly fine (probably one of the best in the game) if he was still throwing 98+ with that 12 to 6 curve. And if he really wanted to add a third pitch, a change-up would be been more than good enough. You don't need a cutter, slider, sinker, etc.. in your arsenal as a closer. Mariano Rivera throws 1 pitch 9.5 out of 10 times and gets hitters out even when they know it's comming. Billy Wagner had a 99+ mph fastball he threw 8 out of 10 times and a slider. Trevor Hoffman, in his prime, had a 96+ mph fastball and one of the best change-ups this game has ever seen, and when he got old, he had a 85-87 mph fastball and one of the best change-ups this game has ever seen. Ace (sorry, habit) has been the most reasonable poster post-loss, and everything he wrote here is truth.

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 12:34 AM) Only one Man. David DeJesus. Greg has gotten me amped by saying Soria/DeJesus to Sox was discussed.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 11:17 PM) I kind of like closer by committee which requires a feel from the manager on who it should be that day. I thought Oz had the feel today when he let Freddy pitch the sixth despite giving up double digit hits through five. Thank god I had a commitment and could only watch the first seven innings. The ninth had to be sick. It amazes me how this division has been the same story every year. The Twins won't ever go away and just have a s*** season. We agree on this.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) I think this can be filed under EpicFail: RIAA Spent $64 Million On Threats Netting Just $1.4 Million http://www.cracked.com/funny-2153-riaa/ http://www.cracked.com/funny-4003-the-pirate-bay/ Those will probably make you laugh.

Damn you Dish Network.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 10:49 PM) Now that's a good thread post. I can't argue with that reasonable post. Do you honestly expect our closer, whomever it may be, to save every game? I'm at the point I hope they replace Fat Bobby just so you all will be happy. But I'll never bury him. He's done a good job in helping us get back in the race. Today was really unfortunate. He also was lights out before having to take time off for the family emergency. I'd think after today it'll be closer by committee for a while again. Ok, I'll admit this thread was a knee-jerk reaction. Bobby was very dominate for a while, but he's also had long stretches of horrible. Maybe I should have titled this "Putz for Closer if we have a 2 or 3 run lead"

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 09:28 PM) So as of today, the White Sox have signed 32 of their 50 picks. Besides Grimes and Terry as the last remaining top 10 round picks yet to sign, who else should the Sox identify to add to their minor league teams? Ben Griset if he'll sign. They'd have to pay overslot. http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2010/06/07/14...-next-move.html

QUOTE (Tex @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 08:47 PM) I'm in a growing corner of Texas that is about 90% Democrat thank you very much. Hey, it says Texas Republicans. And the fact that such a place in Texas exists baffles the mind.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 08:48 PM) yawn.. who didn't see this thread coming? I didn't. I expected "Thornton for Closer"

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 08:26 PM) Dwyane Wade said in a recent interview, "If we [the Miami Heat] lose a couple in a row this season ... You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade (Center) is coming down again." There is no proper context for a remark of such profound narcissism, but here is the full quote: "We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for. We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games." Fanhouse originally mis-reported Wade's quote, but if he wasn't wearing a bulls-eye before, he is now. I don't think I've ever gone from loving to hating a player faster. He's gonna be more hated then LeBron saying that.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 08:20 PM) i think theyre both really good players and would love to have them too obviously but idk..the royals players we have gotten so far havent worked out at all. No one ever touches that bullpen. Soria-Putz-Thornton-Jenks-Santos-Pena-Threets is a murder's row (I assume Linebrink would be gone, though Sergio could be dealt) Also, a lineup of DeJesus-Resurgent Gordon-Rios-Paulie-Quentin-Teahen-Alexei-AJ-Pierre would be wonderful. I'd assume Viciedo & Kotsay would be the odd men out. QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) After the game, Jenks said his sinker, cutter, and slider weren't working. How about your 4 seamer and curve...you know, the two pitches that got you into the majors? This.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 07:35 PM) No. We're not going to suspend someone for being wrong, even if they're not the nicest about it. Eh, I remember you going "I'm going to suspend you if LeBron goes to MIA" "Well, it's good because if he does the words I will say would get me banned." QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 07:59 PM) A better way of asking that would be saying "which posts"

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 07:02 PM) Im not sure if this is the appropriate place, but I believe that Steve was suspended. Im not a moderator, but Ive been on this board for a long time. Steve has always been a great poster and I would hope that administrators would take that into account when determining how long some one should be suspended. I do not think that punishment should be excessive for the sake of setting an example, because I believe that actually undermines authority. There must be some sort of rationale between the length of the punishment and the action that took place. I think the board is better with Steve as a poster and I think that all of the other posters on this site are punished in his absence. I am hopeful that Steve is shown leniency. I personally vouch for him as a poster. Steve may come off as an ass sometimes, but he's a good poster. But isn't he just suspended cause LeBron went to MIA?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 06:42 PM) Rumor on Royals postgame the Sox are trying to get Soria/DeJesus, so you'll all be happy when fat Bobby is replaced and we give up all our young prospects with potential. It really would be smart of KC to try to swoop in and steal Flowers, et. all, cause they need a catcher. Fat Bobby had been pretty damn automatic until he went home for the serious family issue. I refuse to bury the whale over one bad outing. GO BOBBY! If this is true, I'm oozing joy.

I miss Steve.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:45 PM) Great, cause we know how well Jenks does when he doesn't have the late inning adrenaline. I just realized this. Seriously, Kenny needs to go down to Ozzie and be like "No more Bobby with 3 run lead bull"

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:38 PM) This is like Major League 2. We need Jenks to get back into his bad habits and discover his gonads. That 93 mph sinker bulls*** is weak. You're not Jon Garland!

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) The really good throws? lol Yes, the ones that have saved runs.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:24 PM) LOL Garbage, fact. Nevermind the really good throws he's made all year. Plus, no one takes something like this seriously when it starts with LOL.

Seriously, he's been lights out while Bobby can't do anything with a lead over 1. I also don't care about his SV% because when you have two all-star set up men, you better have a SV% of 120%.

f*** you Bobby Jenks. Anyone defend him, f*** you too.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) Ballgame fellas So the Sox win? That's what the current score tells me.

Santos time please.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:55 PM) Sure makes some sense. You'd hope he could be had for less than what Jenks would make in arb., and is a good bet to be the better pitcher, as he's been this year. I'd wish I could keep both. But right now, I'd keep Putz over Bobby.

If it's any significant prospect, he cost too much.