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Great bunt by Rodon.

Came to chime in that Alexei's DP was sick as hell.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 11:59 AM) Maybe, but I am starting to get the feeling Gillapsie is next. They obviously don't like to put him in the field anymore. At least Bonifacio can PR. Agreeing with this. Robin clearly hates Conor's defense and his bat isn't even close to offsetting it.

Excited to finally see him up. Maybe we get a situation where he just keeps hitting, so he stays up.

Man, Delmonico has been on fire. Delmonico, Blackmar and Almonte are all intriguing. We traded Gordon Beckham and Alejandro De Aza for those three.

The only pitcher I want getting called up is EJ followed by Danks to the pen, otherwise this move doesn't help. Albers does nothing for me and Carroll is a good LR guy Saladino meanwhile would be intriguing.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 07:31 PM) I'm watching the Bartman story on ESPN Films. Some Cubs fans are just the worst... Saw that the same day as the highlight of the Cubs fan grabbing a ball from Adrian Gonzalez, which seemed to be massively celebrated.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 05:41 PM) Then waste your time working him out? They only have a few hundred thousand dollars left under this years cap number. Yeah, they're not working out him out for kicks and giggles. They know what signing him would mean.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) wait what Arguing to the point of absurdity. Inspired by Wite's amazing post on keeping Gio QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2012 -> 01:22 AM) I read the topic. Didn't care about anything else anybody else has said, so if what I say is aforementioned, then many kudos. - It depends upon which time you were talking about. Had the Sox not traded for Jim Thome, they'd have been left with an 02-04ish offense, hoping and praying that Frank Thomas could stay healthy. They'd still be destroyed by great right handed pitching, and as a result probably would have only won 87 games instead of 90. That's IF they had kept Thomas. Had they still let Thomas walk, the best case scenario I can see is that they would have ended up with Nomar Garciaparra. They still lose 3 wins. That's at the very best. Now, if you're an old school type who believes that protection in the lineup helps generate production from other players, than perhaps Jermaine Dye doesn't hit 44 home runs, perhaps Paul Konerko doesn't put up the exact same numbers as MVP Justin Morneau, and perhaps other pieces from the lineup fall as well. Perhaps the Sox lose 10 wins, are ridiculously far out of it at the break, and deal Freddy Garcia for 2 other prospects. And then never get Gio back, and after another very bad year in 2008, the Sox fire both Williams and Guillen and hire Dan Evans and Gene Lamont to run the team. I think we all know how that one goes. Now, had they not traded him the second time, which is the one I think you are getting at, having never read a single word of your post, then the Sox don't end up with Nick Swisher. Now, depending upon how strictly and strongly you believe in the statistic WAR, and whose definition you believe most in (baseballreference or fangraphs), the Sox are either better off without Swisher (-0.5 bWAR) or Nick Swisher was worth more than 1 win for the 2008 Chicago White Sox (1.3 fWAR). I give much more credence towards fWAR but I'm a homer, so do as you please. But since, in this revisionist's history, we are using that, and we are using it to mean Nick Swisher was literally worth 1+ more wins than the average Joe they could have put in place, then what we would have seen would have been DeWayne Wise putting up 2 WAR in August alone and -3 WAR in the months outside of that, given general estimation. On top of that, even had the Sox found a perfect replacement level player to play instead of Swisher, who would have put up exactly a 0 fWAR, the Sox would have given up the division lead in the second game in the Metrodome, the final win against Cleveland wouldn't have mattered, they'd have never played the makeup game against Detroit, and the blackout game would have never taken place, thus, no Griffey/Thome/Danks show, and we would have never seen the batting champion-to-be bunt in his last plate appearance of the year attempting to get on base. At that point in time, 2009 would have been far more disappointing, and the Sox almost certainly would have never had the resources to sign Dayan Viciedo during the 2008-09 offseason. They'd be in a full blown rebuilding mode, still with Dan Evans and Gene Lamont in charge. Going into the 4th year of Reinsdorf's always too generous length of stay, the Sox would be coming off their 2nd straight 90+ loss season with an absolute garbage product on the field but hope beyond hope in the minors with a top 10 system in the league. But atleast they'd still have Gio f***in Gonzalez.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 03:28 PM) That is 7-2 in their last 9, and 11-6 in their last 17 games. I don't want to have hope. But I do. Just keep winning.

You know what, just for fun, let's say the Sox give Buehrle the Marlins contract. Match it exactly. Sale took Buehrle's slot in the rotation, so now Sale is in a premier lefty setup role or closer. The rotation to begin the year? Buehrle, Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Humber. Danks goes down with an injury still, but instead of calling up Jose Quintana, the White Sox call up Hector Santiago, their homegrown prospect who is no longer in the pen due to Chris Sale's presence. Fast forward to last year and they're rolling with Buehrle ($19M), Danks, Santiago, Scott Carroll and Quintana in his second year starting, with the Sox trying to see what they've got. Chris Sale is now closing. Due to Buehrle's contract and no 1-2 punch of Sale and Quintana, the White Sox elect to not sign Jose Abreu. There's no real reason for it. They don't trade for Eaton either as the asking price was Sale, an elite closer at this point. Davidson was to be included in the hypothetical Sale-Eaton deal. The Sox DO have the number one overall pick in 2014 though and use it to take Brady Aiken. Who then has TJS. With the franchise in shambles, Alexei is traded off and Semien given the starting SS job. Semien and Micah Johnson combine to be the single worst defensive SS-2B duo of all time. Conor Gillaspie is at first while Sanchez is manning third. They've also decided to trade their elite closer at this point for a Top 40-60 prospect. The Sox don't go out and spend money and fans bemoan them wasting Buehrle's twilight years and being cheap. Granted, these are the same people who are likely complaining about Melky, Robertson, Samardzjia, Duke and LaRoche. And for those saying it wasn't Buehrle or Sale, it was Buehrle or Danks. Danks, six years younger, was already signed to a cheaper on average deal with no $20M year involved. Buehrle also kept talking about retirement as we all know and wanting to be more with is family, which is 100% his right but not exactly something you want to lock $56M into. So we keep Mark Buehrle and Santiago, but we lose Sale as a starter, a more seasoned Q, Jose Abreu, Adam Eaton and Carlos Rodon.

This is the ultimate hindsight thread.

15 game win streak continues today

Ah yes, the Eaton walk off blast.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 11:01 PM) I know people do not agree with me, but Walker ruined GB changing his swing and approach and he never recovered. I think a lot of people agree with this.

Thank f***ing god.

Wow. He's VERY out.

Ramona Shelburne ✔@ramonashelburne Agent cert form can be signed at diff time. If DJ were to say he repped himself, his agent could say he violated player-agent contract Ramona Shelburne ✔ @ramonashelburne If this goes to the player's union, it would be on the record -- something I'm sure all parties want to avoid.

What the absolute f*** Avi

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) Jordan can fire him at any time, so I don't think he has a say in this. Good point. Also, CP3, the president of the NBAPA, just very publicly barred a player from negotiating with a team.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) Maybe Cuban will send some rogue agents/lawyers to infiltrate DeAndre's house and let them in. There's no way Fegan allows this contract to be signed tonight. He's been locked out to.

Adrian Wojnarowski ✔@WojYahooNBA DeAndre Jordan needs an agent certification on contract, invalid without it. Agents are expected to join Clippers, Jordan tonight at house. Oh boy.

Is it just me or is even Alexei looking more competent lately?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 09:07 PM) I said he was a "cheater in the past," what's so bad about that. You are right though, I truly dislike Melky and LarRoche. QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) would be a utility player at best if not for the cheating years. We have distinct proof otherwise.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 08:59 PM) No need to rip a player that strongly. I've been tempted to rip guys like LaRoche similarly and don't go that far. Some of us are Danks fans here. QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) Great post. I know it's off topic but I was against the Melky signing from the beginning. Cheater in the past who would be a utility player at best if not for the cheating years. I wish they'd clean house. Everybody but me thought firing Ozzie would do wonders. That did nothing because a lot of bad baseball people remain aboard.