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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 03:06 PM) Was definitely a seminal moment in some ways. Then there was the tank in San Diego. That was truly beyond any law enforcement capability, and brought into question a possible exception to the laws against use of military power against civilians. That was so bizarre. They had to kill the driver.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) Very large exaggeration. If a cop comes up on a call like this one, and someone points a gun at them, they would be absolutely and legally justified in firing at them. Apparently that didn't happen here, or else the guy would be ridden with many extra holes. I was referring to a different scenario.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:59 PM) I think Balta already pointed this out, or maybe it was someone else, but the North Hollywood bank robbery in the late 90's demonstrates how naive this idea is. In that case, you had two heavily armed and armored gunmen out in broad daylight fighting to get away, not to kill as many as possible. Yet it still took dozens (hundreds?) of trained police officers over an hour to bring them down. I think that was a turning point in law enforcement since no law enforcement agencies had anything to combat it at that time.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) I'm starting to see some deep religious talk here, and some gun control talk. All well and fine. But please keep it civil, and try to keep it apolitical. Otherwise, the thread (or parts of it) will need to be moved to the Buster. Don't let your imagination run away.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) As a policeman, why do you think the gunman wasn't shot and killed by the cops in the parking lot? Was the guy standing against his car? I'd think any one sign of resistance by the guy or his moving his hands to detonate a bomb or something would have resulted in the guy getting blown away. I wish he'd have been killed on the spot. Police aren't allowed a margin of error. It's like if someone points a fake or empty gun at a cop, they are suppose to wait to be gunned down before they can react.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) As a policeman, why do you think the gunman wasn't shot and killed by the cops in the parking lot? Was the guy standing against his car? I'd think any one sign of resistance by the guy or his moving his hands to detonate a bomb or something would have resulted in the guy getting blown away. I wish he'd have been killed on the spot. I'm amazed at the "coddling" culture you mention. The same parents who were not coddled and even got slugged by a brother at say, Brother Rice, are now the ones coddling their own kids and making sure they play for teams that get trophies for going 0-10 during the season. The same parents who were able to roam the streets of Chicago unsupervised until dark and play baseball or hockey with their friends at the park all day, now have to be supervised entirely lest they get kidnapped or something. I don't understand how a generation that was not coddled has been the biggest culprit in coddling kids the last 30 years or so. Secularism. Also watch . This is not really an answer or anything but it talks about how culture has changed and what it created. I have seen responses to web blogs where people refer to kids these days as the "spare the rod generation" referring to parents trying to be their kid's friend instead of being a...parent. When I was a kid that last choice in my world for friends would be my parents.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) I carry off duty when I feel like it might be necessary. It didn't seem like a big to-do to wear it to ease other people's minds a day after a tragic shooting. Did you mess with them and wear turban as well?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:10 PM) Head shots are difficult in Call of Duty. In real life, that goes x10. Unless you are one of those hackers that play online. They can kill you with a pistol even if you are behind a foot of concrete.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:04 PM) Not to make light of the situation, but why was a 6 year old at a midnight showing of a PG-13 film? Just walk into a Super Wal-Mart or 24 hr grocery and you would not find this unusual. That's the new generation of parents. So when a kid is sleeping through the school day, the excuse is school must be boring instead of lack of sleep. Maybe Tony Dungy was right when he said nothing good happens after midnight.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:41 AM) I think I need to speak to a minister about why evil like this happens. Your answers are in Genesis and Revelation. After the "fall of man" sin and death entered the world. The story of Cain and Abel was the first murder. Sodom and Gomorrah was listed as "sin so grievous" that only the story of Lot is recorded. In Revelation there is prophecy of evil becoming greater. Evil has always existed. The problem with secularism is it doesn't believe evil exists and when it does, they look for excuses that makes the individual less accountable. It has a belief that poverty=immorality. (in many cases true) We are shocked that such crimes like these are not done by "ghetto" people. As secularism becomes popular acts like this happen. Worse acts like this have been committed before in political systems where the foundation is secularism. Our current culture treats stress as something bad. Kids going into the public education system since the 80's have become coddled compared to those in the 70's. You got yelled at by the teacher for a bad grade and then got it at home. If you got whacked by the teacher you prayed that info didn't get home. If you were bullied you handled it on your own as much as possible. If you lost, you didn't get a trophy. If you were bad at something, you wanted to improve because quitting wasn't always the option. The world is not fair and there is no political system that can be implemented to change that. People tend to snap more because they've been coddled and never had to deal with any stress.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/23/ber...ball-continues/ Unfortunately, no attempt to change this particular culture can really succeed without a suspension of the games themselves. In fact, there are already indications that this entire scandal will be used as a rallying point for the team. Penn State raised $208 million, its second-highest total ever for a single fiscal year.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 12:21 PM) If they are serious get the best SP available. I have a sneaking suspicion that Danks will be shutdown for the season after the trade deadline. If they don't have a suitable replacement for him in place, I don't think they go to the postseason. Then you wonder how long Sale and Quintana is going to hold up. Hitting and confidence in the pen is the bigger ? to me. I doubt the 71 Orioles staff could win with this group right now. I want to see how Humer does on his next start. Even before this series the Tigers were putting up a lot of runs against the Angels. The sad thing is the Tigers have lot more for negotiating trades than the Sox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 09:26 PM) The other thing to remember is that the Tigers started off by ripping 6 in a row through the Twins and the Royals. Although they did just whip the Angels 3/4 before us...no excuse they didn't face Weaver, because the Tigers didn't use Verlander in that series. We have to take care of business against the Twins. Nothing less than 2/3, because the Angels are going to be tough for the rest of the season. This is something the Sox fail to do over the years. They can look like world beaters and take 3/4 from the Yankees then lose 2/3 to the Royals.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 08:30 PM) Cubs had a shutout going vs the Cardinals, until they gave 12 (twelve) runs in the 7th... Did they borrow the Sox pen?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 06:46 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...18788--mlb.html One of the headline stories now at Yahoo. Scary. I guess she doesn't like forums.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 03:48 PM) More like unload the payroll, hopefully we get Johnson! They did a poor job of spending that money.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 20, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) He is made for TV (as long as they are on a seven second delay)/ I don't see him being a problem on TV. It's a lot different when you don't have emotional interest in a team.

People repent. He can't undo the past. If he is still beating his wife then I understand the reaction. Still we have no idea what their relationship is like. People say and do things without striking a blow that causes others to commit suicide. Most men aren't going to file a complaint if their wife hits them. Females aren't what they use to be. They are getting to be like type a males. Look in public schools and you'll find girls aren't girls anymore. They are the ones committing violence. I don't know the details of this player and I don't care but there are two sides to every story.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 03:00 PM) Big game tomorrow...Dunn better be on the bench. I they could get a nice package for Dunn (probably a NL team), I'm all for it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) Heard in 1997, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009-12. Been there, done that. The only time we weren't overreacting was 2008. 2000 and 2005, we ran out to huge leads and held on. The difference in 2005 is they faced the division rivals at the end of the season and put them away. They went 8-2. There was a lot more confidence in the pitching.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:54 PM) Still way, way too early to lump Ventura in with the second half struggles of Ozzie and Manuel. My point is it may have very little to do with the managers.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:49 PM) He will get at least next season, whether you like it or not. This season, up until this point, still has to be considered evidence of progress. The biggest deal, Molina for Santos, actually saved the White Sox $7.25 million in guaranteed salary...so you can bet that JR's not going to fire Williams for saving him from that catastrophe. Even the Danks and Peavy contracts were covered by insurance, so they're only losing 55-65 cents on the dollar. Rios, Dunn and Peavy all performed up to their abilities this year. That makes KW look a lot better...if the bullpen wasn't leading the AL in blown saves, we would still be in first place and things would look much more positive. That was the area he chose to go with youth (letting Frasor go, for example), and it has come back to bite him. But many were predicting 85-100 losses, and that clearly hasn't happened. The problem could be more JR. He's shown loyalty to former players and maybe there are people in the areas of scouting and development that are working only because they are buddies, family of friends, ect that wouldn't be working elsewhere.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:47 PM) You are all overreacting. It's a long season. Do you all remember Houston? You go through s*** like this over the course of 162 games. They're hot, we're not. We've been hot when they've been cold. It happens. Relax, it's July. Unfortunately history is no on your side. The Sox are not Houston. 3 managers in the new century and a majority of the story stays the same.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:47 PM) Soon enough the Tigers will come back down to earth, they just caught us at a bad time. A typical up and down season. Yes, imagine that......a baseball season full of ups and downs, Hmmm...I've never seen that before. The calls for blowing up the team already are insane and foolish. Let's just wait this thing out, it has been streaky all year. A good streak will come around, people need to relax We heard that last season.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) It is a reoccurring theme. Getting swept after the asb by our chief protagonist. http://www.southsidesox.com/2011/9/4/24053...reak-both-apply It always seems like their is a choke job in the previous series to set the table.