Thad Bosley

If we have a “middle sized fan base”, it’s because in 57 of the 58 years since the World Series appearance in ‘59 (outside of 2005), this fan base has witnessed all of FOUR postseason victories. FOUR postseason victories over a 57 year period. Contrast that with the FOUR postseason wins the Cubs fan base got to enjoy in less than a two week period last October, and then get back to me with what a horrible fan base we have that you love to bash all the time.

I am drawing from the same set of “facts” as is Steve Stone, who happens to be very close to the owner, so your tired bitterness argument doesn’t hold water.

Goodness, you can be such the broken record sometimes, with your gratuitous fan bashing and your nonsensical insistence that the CHICAGO White Sox are a middle market team. As it relates to the latter, Steve Stone would probably direct your stubborn attention to ye olde “sweetheart lease deal”, whereby if you were so inclined to focus on its contents, you’d realize this team is guaranteed “major market” revenue streams through very generous subsidies each and every year, whether there are 30,000 fans in the park each night or 964. So you can choose to keep your head in the sand on this subject and keep presenting this erroneous point of view, or take the lead of the very knowledgeable Steve Stone and recognize the obvious, which is the FACT that the White Sox are clearly a “major market” team.

I don’t think Steve Stone has an “agenda”.

Far more credible than the words of an ill-informed internet message board administrator, wouldn't you say?

Steve Stone said on WGN radio just last week that the Sox are a "major market team". Which stands to reason, given that they reside in the major market known as "Chicago".

Which two teams in our lifetime could possibly be worse than this 2018 team, outside of maybe, just maybe, the 1970 team? And even they managed to win 56 games, which at the moment seems like it's going to take a Herculean effort for this current team to even win that many.

That is some kind of progress report for the team with the longest tenured owner AND a 1-2 management team now in their 18th year of running this baseball operation. They are now able, after all of this time, to “ID talent”. Baby steps. Progress has a new address, located at the offices of 35th & Shields.

Prospect bust rate = 70%

Well, they're certainly not asking him to bunt less, but if they are, they clearly have one insubordinate employee on their hands.

Is it "Renteria's" bunting proclivity, or is it part of the organization's overall offense philosophy? This is the second year now that Ricky has been inundating us with all of this bunting. so obviously no one in the front office is telling him to cease and desist with the approach.

The point is of course you can judge Hahn on the results of the past six years, the past six years of arguably as bad a stretch of White Sox baseball as there has been in the team's entire history. I don't know if you noticed, but he has been the GM during that entire time, so who the hell else do you judge for the dismal results? If you want to spread the blame equally across Williams and the owner, sure, go ahead. But don't make ridiculous claims that the main architect of each of those ball clubs from 2013 to the present is somehow not to blame for all of the losing we've witnessed over this period of time.

Are these strengths of the White Sox organization, too?

Just throw Cano over there in the bin with Sosa, McGuire, Bonds, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al

Frank's command of the zone was so good, that manager Jeff Torborg actually wanted him to break camp with the team right from the beginning, based on what he saw of Thomas in spring training. It was then-GM Larry Himes who put the breaks on that and kept him in the minors until August of that year. But given the way Frank hit the ground running that August, it's fair to say that maybe Torborg was correct, and he could have had Thomas for the entire year of that 1990 campaign. Makes you wonder a little if a full year of Frank would have been enough for that surprise 1990 White Sox team to overtake Oakland that year.

"Screaming" at these particular remodelers is probably appropriate at this point. There haven't been many nice "kitchens" resulting from their handiwork these past 18 years that they've been trying their hand at this.

We're actually up to 38 now, with Year 38 all set to look like 32 of it's 37 predecessors, meaning NO PLAYOFF APPEARANCE FOR THE WHITE SOX.

Let’s be clear about the fans and “managements’” rebuild. The fans “support” this do-over because they really don’t have any other choice. The so-called “rebuild” is the one and only lifeline being thrown to the fan base as a way out of the abysmal run of baseball that has unfolded on the South Side the past decade or so. It’s the only blade of hope that the fans can cling to in hopes of breaking the 4th longest playoff drought in baseball. It’s the only option at this point to change the summer conversation around Guaranteed Rate Field from, yet again, wondering who the team will choose with their high pick in the following summer’s draft to the division race in which the team is currently in. That’s why the fans “support the rebuild”. It’s all we have at this very low point in the team’s history.

“Lol...” Lol, indeed. ”you can hate or be skeptical of the front office all you want” Oh, and we are, and justifiably so. Williams and Hahn have been 1-2 and 2-1 at the top of the Sox’ management group since 2001. Yet just two postseason appearances in 18 years under their leadership? Just one since the WS appearance 13 years ago (and a very brief one at that!)? Not one appearance in almost a decade now? Oh, you better believe skepticism is out and about as it relates to how this fan base views this front office. All knowledgeable fans are beyond skeptical at this point with the level of incompetence exhibited by this front office. “but people need to stop being surprised this team sucks” That’s the issue - we ARE NOT surprised! We are use to them sucking! They’ve sucked for longer than we care to remember. The key is we WANT them to STOP sucking. To date, they have not stopped that from happening. “and trying to use that as further evidence that the front office is incompetent” We are all open to evidence to the contrary. “The team is supposed to suck right now by design” As opposed to the recent teams who performed at the same level as this one which were “designed” to be “All In” and/or “Going for it”. You never can tell the difference with the teams this management group fields each year. “ignoring that just makes some of you look like total fools” Attendance, TV & radio ratings of recent years suggest the “total fools” are those folks who ignore how the facts of this team’s recent (and long term) results have impacted the current and potential fan base.

What you don’t grasp is that “we”, the fans, aren’t the ones going on this “full fledge rebuild”. This so-called “rebuild” is solely on ownership and management, reflecting their abject failure to produce anything remotely resembling competitive baseball in a very long time. This expectation that fans should somehow accept and be patient with a front office that has been so poor at their job that they’ve effectively had to start from scratch with a rebuild is utter nonsense. As long as we’re still subject to and witnessing not only the lack of winning baseball but the awful variety of the past decade, our voices of discontent should be loud and clear until they get it right and put forth a product on the field worthy of our support.

Given this front office is in their 18th year together now with only two playoff appearances to their credit, including just one in the 13 years since the WS year, yes, very little in the credibility column earned for this management team. But I think we all realize we are just stuck with them while the current ownership is in place, so all the fan base is left with is hope. Hope that somehow, some way, this plan of their’s will bear fruit and finally reverse the streak of horrific baseball we’ve witnessed now on the South Side for way too many years now.

Thanks for the great memories, Hawk & Wimpy!

Let’s not let Hawk & Wimpy’s last game together go out with a whimper. LET’S GET SOME RUNS!!!

Six years in a row of this caliber of baseball.

Shields off the hook, which is nice.