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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 06:58 PM) C: Castillo, Narvaez 1B: Abreu 2B: Moncada 3B: Sanchez, Davidson SS: Anderson, Saladino OF: Leury, Delmonico, Avi, Engel, Cordell SP: Shields, Gonzalez, Giolito, Lopez, Fulmer BP: Soria, Jones, Gomez, Avilan, Viera, Bummer, Santiago DL: Rodon Lineup: SS Anderson, 2B Moncada, RF Avi, 1B Abreu, LF Delmonico, DH Davidson, 3B Sanchez, C Castillo, CF Leury Thoughts? Opinions? Hopefully able to shop Shields, MiGo, Soria, and Gomez by Deadline Kevan Smith maybe flipped in camp Flip Leury and Anderson in the lineup.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 02:50 PM) Reading that quote a couple times, this doesn't strike me as cocky or presumptuous at all. I mean, it's very possible that they literally TOLD him that it's his job at this point. Giving a guy a sense of security is a pretty common management tactic for some who you feel is pressing due to high expectations. I've seen no indication anywhere that he's loafing or not taking his job seriously. I don't know what it is about the quotation, but I think you're misinterpreting it. Don't let it make you hate the guy, there's much more evidence he has a good attitude than a bad one -- and lots of weird things get said during ST interviews when guys are constantly pressured to say something even when they don't have anything to say. The way he speaks so respectfully of Abreu and how he’s asserted himself in a mentor role for Robert seems to me to speak volumes about the guy’s character, and in a very good way.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 03:48 PM) I can’t link the article from the tribune for some reason, if someone can it would be appreciated. I’m excited for the rebuild, but there is an article there where Yoan Moncada is quoted as saying that he’s excited knowing that the second base job is his. Maybe he was taken the wrong way, but this bothers me. He’s a talented, exciting young prospect, but it is not like he is a perennial all star and mvp candidate at this point in his career. I hope he does that in his career, but at this point he should have to earn it. Yes, he is the most likely winner there, but if he has a horrible spring, and someone else, say Yolmer Sanchez for example, tears the cover off the ball along with his sparkling defense this spring, Moncada should not just be handed the job. I just don’t like the attitude. JMHO. Don’t forget Papa Bear Abreu is with him/next to him every day now, and I don’t think he’d allow Yoan to ever get too big for his britches. But I don’t think that’s going on here. He’s just describing his level of comfort today vs. when he first came up.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 03:11 PM) Am I wrong or wasnt there some beef between Duncan and Hawk a few years back? If I’m not mistaken, the trouble between Duncan and Hawk began way back in 1986, the year of Hawk’s infamous term as general manager. The Sox had a highly regarded prospect back then by the name of Edwin Correa, whom Hawk wanted to trade to Texas for a few pieces he felt necessary for that ‘86 team to compete. Apparently Duncan was very high on Correa and pleaded with Hawk not to trade him, but he did anyway. I think that coupled with all of the other friction going on between Hawk and LaRussa contributed to bad blood between Duncan and Hawk. Oh, and Hawk also layered Don Drysdale over Duncan in some exalted executive role over all pitching matters in the organization, so I’m sure that probably didn’t help matters much.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 3, 2018 -> 03:45 PM) I bet the other owners feel he has done an outstanding job. Getting a basically free stadium, keeping players salaries down, getting new draft slotting rules, international bonus caps. Perhaps his time these past 37 years would have better spent as an executive of MLB rather than as owner of our White Sox, given these so-called accomplishments of which you speak have not led to the success of the White Sox organization.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 03:35 PM) Bob Nightengale‏Verified account @BNightengale 45s46 seconds ago Chicago #Whitesox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf and #Brewers owner Mark Attanasio are appointed to Rob Manfred's powerful executive council. Just what this council needs: the insights of baseball’s most tenured yet most severely flawed and obviously most failed owner with a seat at its table.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 08:44 AM) John Rooney is OK, but he lost me in the 80s when he argued Gary Redus was better than Rickey Henderson. Lol - complete and utter nonsense! What the devil are you talking about now! Rooney never said any such thing of the sort. Rooney began his career with the Sox in 1988 (on the television side, succeeding Don Drysdale before giving way to Gary Thorne on the TV side in 1989), and he only presided over Redus’ final 77 games with the Sox before Redus was traded to the Pirates that year for...the mighty Mike Diaz! Remember Diaz’? No? There’s a reason for that - he was terrible! Diaz’ career didn’t last past the ‘88 season, for crying out loud. Look at Diaz’ career stats. Does he look like a guy for whom a player better than Rickey Henderson IN HIS PRIME would be traded for? Of course not! Which is why the amazingly astute John Rooney would have never said such an absurd thing as asserted by Our Very Own Dick Allen here. It never happened! Rooney may have favorably compared Redus’ skill set to that of Henderson, but he never came close to suggesting Redus was better than Henderson. Dick, unless you have video/audio to prove otherwise, strongly suggest you back off of this obvious misstatement of yours that the great John Rooney made any suggestion EVER that Gary Redus was better than one of the greatest players of all time in Rickey Henderson. Very much a disservice to Rooney’s great career on the South Side.

QUOTE (35thstreetswarm @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 06:24 PM) As the cold stove has shown no signs of heating, I have turned my thoughts to more frivolous baseball-related topics, like uniforms (a favorite of mine). I think it would be worth considering a uniform redesign in the coming years. The Sox are due for one. And especially if the Sox are poised for a renaissance: I've also always liked it when a team decides to do a little rebranding to coincide with a big upswing, ala the 2000s-era Miami Heat. I've also always thought the Sox did not take sufficient advantage of the "White" in "White Sox," or the fact that the franchise owns one of the coolest color combos in baseball: white and black. I've also never loved the Yankees-knockoff pinstripe look. With all that in mind, what about a super crisp white-on-white home uniform? The Nike redesigns of Vanderbilt are a good template, though I'm imagining even more white, like black-outlined white lettering and a super-simplified, almost Penn State football look that emphasizes the "white." https://news.nike.com/news/baseball-vapor-elite-uniform Another possibility would be to pair that with a black-on-black away uniform, ala Mississippi State/Louisville. White/Black. If too gimmicky, though, we could stick with the usual black alternates as aways, maybe with some tweaks. I think the hat stays untouched, though. Thoughts? Another view of potential future uniforms someone came up with a few years ago. It doesn’t focus on featuring the “white” aspect of things, but rather “punching up” the color on the current uniform scheme while tethering the suggestions to the team’s varied uniform design history. https://clumsytuba.wordpress.com/2013/04/04...e-sox-uniforms/

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 09:49 AM) https://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2018...xqlfjTqBoqoI.97 Astros top ten. 5-9 all international signings with 5 and 6 from 2016. It's frustrating to consistently say with the white sox "we won't know for several more years" consistently with our intl guys when the other successful teams we are trying to emulate see returns much faster. The 2016 international draft is a particularly frustrating one. Ten teams were in the so-called “penalty box” that year and couldn’t sign anyone for more than $300K. The typical big spenders including the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, and both L.A. teams were among those ten. Several other teams then took advantage of the big spenders being on the sidelines and swooped in and gobbled up the top 30 prospects with multiple signings. The Padres led that charge with eight or nine signings of those top 30, with one of those players now in the top 100 MLB prospects listing. There are two or three other players from that draft also in the top 100 list now as well. Other teams like the Nationals, Cardinals, A’s, Astros, and Braves were similarly active, and now most of their 2016 signings are featured somewhere in those teams’ respective top 20 prospects listings. Meanwhile, the Sox didn’t sign even one of those 30 players. Not one.

QUOTE (35thstreetswarm @ Jan 20, 2018 -> 04:35 PM) Not exactly - those uniforms had a totally different logo, different font, huge numbers on the pants, etc. The only thing that would be the same would be the home unis would be white instead of pinstripe. Gotcha. So the current home uni sans the pinstripes. Not sure that would work. Seems like that would be too much white, if all you'd have on the uni is the current Sox logo over the left part of the chest. I think you'd have to pull something across the entire chest to eat up some of that white, like those Vanderbilt jerseys do. But I'm with you with having a team called the "White" Sox somehow better emphasize or feature white in their uniforms!

QUOTE (35thstreetswarm @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 06:24 PM) As the cold stove has shown no signs of heating, I have turned my thoughts to more frivolous baseball-related topics, like uniforms (a favorite of mine). I think it would be worth considering a uniform redesign in the coming years. The Sox are due for one. And especially if the Sox are poised for a renaissance: I've also always liked it when a team decides to do a little rebranding to coincide with a big upswing, ala the 2000s-era Miami Heat. I've also always thought the Sox did not take sufficient advantage of the "White" in "White Sox," or the fact that the franchise owns one of the coolest color combos in baseball: white and black. I've also never loved the Yankees-knockoff pinstripe look. With all that in mind, what about a super crisp white-on-white home uniform? The Nike redesigns of Vanderbilt are a good template, though I'm imagining even more white, like black-outlined white lettering and a super-simplified, almost Penn State football look that emphasizes the "white." https://news.nike.com/news/baseball-vapor-elite-uniform Another possibility would be to pair that with a black-on-black away uniform, ala Mississippi State/Louisville. White/Black. If too gimmicky, though, we could stick with the usual black alternates as aways, maybe with some tweaks. I think the hat stays untouched, though. Thoughts? So essentially re-introducing the uniforms from 1987-1990 and simply swapping out the red and blue colors with silver and black?

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 07:28 PM) [/b] It's possible. However, I think he is more likely a guy who will have his weaknesses exposed with extended playing time. The only “weakness” Leury exhibited up until last year was being overwhelmed by MLB pitching. There’s never been anything “weak” about his defensive game or his speed. And last year he did not even remotely look like he was being overwhelmed at the plate. Quite the contrary, actually. He was quite effective getting on base while displaying some surprising power until he got hurt. So not quite sure what you think will be “exposed” with continued playing time for him this coming season. Meanwhile, putting Tilson in some proper context: he was a #12 ranked prospect in the game’s 18th ranked farm system at the time of acquisition a year and a half ago, and he hasn’t played a full game since that acquisition. Hard to see the promise in his return given how much development time the poor guy has missed.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 17, 2018 -> 09:32 PM) While Moncada is supposed to have some pop, I don't think he has ever rated the super high power projections that some of our other guys have. It is good power plus top level speed that is high calling card. Moncada sounds more like a 30/30 guy versus a 40 homer guy to me. That would be consistent with the myriad “He’s Robinson Cano with speed” comparisons that have been made about Moncada.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jan 14, 2018 -> 12:36 PM) Since it will impact the White Sox in ways that can't be determined yet, I thought I'd post it here: Crane Kenney at the Cubs convention on their future media plans: "If the Cubs are successful, it could have a domino effect in the market, with Kenney saying the team is “probably 80 percent inclined” to leave its NBC Sports Chicago partnership with the Bulls, Blackhawks and White Sox. “We like controlling our own destiny,” he said. “You start adding partners, it becomes a little more complicated.” ---------- The Cubs are going to start their own TV Network, that's pretty clear. What it means for the Sox since their deal is up at the same time is unknown from an advertising standpoint and an interest standpoint and a rights fee standpoint. Interesting as always, Lip! Keep up the good work! Makes me wonder what the future of WGN and Chicago sports is after 2019. Do the Cubs say goodbye to ‘GN after almost 70 years if they move to their own network, or do they carve out 20-30 games each year and keep them on the over-the-air WGN outlet? And what about the Sox? Do they get WGN all to themselves with the chance to televise more games if the Cubs aren’t around? Or is that even desirable in this day and age? Despite ‘GN’s ability to reach so many homes in the Chicago market, do they pay enough in rights fees to make it worthwhile from a revenue generating perspective? Has WGN, once the superstation powerhouse of the ‘80s, ‘90s, ‘00s, become a dinosaur and a relic in this day and age, giving way to these new and evolving broadcasting entities? I guess we’ll find out in the next couple of years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 08:48 PM) Fortunately, Jerry Reinsdorf hasn't ruined my life yet. I suspect not. Hard to think of a way he could impact your life beyond just inflicting the adverse effect he’s had on your experience as a White Sox fan.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 06:23 AM) I actually go through life just fine, thank you. I will say it’s rather entertaining at times to watch you try and navigate through back-and-forth arguments like this one, particularly when you don’t appear to have a leg to stand on with your reasoning. But I have to hand it to you, you give it the ‘ol college try, nonetheless!

In 1989, the White Sox finished the season with the 4th worst record in all of baseball (sound familiar?), finishing ahead of only Detroit (sound familiar?), Philadelphia (sound familiar?), and Atlanta that season. In July of that season, they traded their most valuable Major League asset (sound familiar?) for an elite pitching and elite position player prospect (sound familiar?). They then entered the 1990 season with the youngest roster in all of baseball. And then they went and won 94 games. So who knows what will happen next season? It’s baseball, anything can happen. Not suggesting the 2018 team will be similarly as successful as the 1990 team, but merely suggesting anything is possible after watching what transpired in 1990 after the dreadful 1989 season.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:23 PM) When does our TV deal end? Seems like if you were going to invest in a star, you’d want to do it before those negotiations start. 2019

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) Hold on a second here. You dislike Reinsdorf as an owner more than I do, yet you legitimately think the White Sox would pay up for a free agent like Machado? Or maybe you are just being facetious? Not being facetious at all, but rather somewhat hopeful. Hahn went out of his way the other day to describe several different ways that he claims the Sox are trying to go about their business differently than in years past. Everything from a difference in draft strategy, to a reticence to dealing with the Cubs, all the way to their approach to dealing with free agency. Based on recent drafts and the recent trade last summer with the Cubs, I found his statements to be very credible, which is why I’m optimistic and excited about the team’s chances with acquiring this generational player named Machado.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 06:00 PM) The White Sox know that they have zero chance at winning a bidding war for Manny Machado on the open market. No one else will say it, but I will. Sure they will be "competitive", and "make an impressive" offer, and maybe even be the 2nd highest bidder. They will even give the "bigger contract offered in the history of the franchise". But they won't be the top bidder, and they know it. LMAO! Could you be more of a wet blanket on this, this being one of the more exciting times in very recent White Sox memory, with the Sox going this aggressively at acquiring a premium talent like Machado? Chr*st on a cracker, already! Here we have for the first time in a long time - a very long time, mind you! - our BIG MARKET ball club talking like a BIG MARKET ball club about pursuing a premium talent like this, a soon to be available asset on the open market, AND giving fairly strong indications that they as a BIG MARKET club will have the ability to meet the market demands and sign the talent long term. When was the last time a White Sox fan was able to get excited about this kind of free agent prospect signing? Yet here you are reigning down with your typical Debbie Downer, “Why, the Sox could never, ever...do this or...do that...” nonsense. As if it were a fool’s errand to ever believe the team could make such an acquisition like this come true. Why, then, should we believe your line of thinking on the unlikelihood of the Sox acquiring Machado vs. what the GM has recently and refreshingly suggested as a different approach when it comes to competing for talents such as his?

The road to the Sox’ next chance for a World Series championship in the oft-mentioned window starting in 2020 (perhaps sooner) will inevitably go through New York, a powerhouse whicj just acquired the services of Giancarlo Stanton during that same timeframe. Our chances of competing with that Yankees team in the postseason is much better served with a Manny Machado in his prime playing in the Sox’ lineup rather than making theirs even that much more imposing.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) "Giolito, Cease/Hansen , Burger, and Bummer....I think this is a package that gives the Os something to sell the fans" http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/ind...o/&page=116 Thought this was amusing. That's a package he would get with 5 years on his deal. Actually, the other deal mentioned in the thread of Fulmer, Anderson, and one from the Adams/Stephens tier actually feels about right if this thing were to go down.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 08:59 AM) I don't think young professional athletes carry your stereotypical millennial attitudes. These are guys who have been at the top of their sport their whole lives, always have been in control, I think they see things differently then a young twentysomething first breaking in to corporate America. It's also a very different setting, if a player can play when he's young, he's gonna be successful. Interesting take, given ptatc’s also interesting take on how he thought the young players of today would react to AJ’s potential style of managing. Who knows? Millennial attitudes do register as a risk to corporate America today. Whether they do in the sports world remains to be seen.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 11:18 PM) This is true. However, throughout his career even into his 30's he showed absolutely no signs of even being polite let alone wanted to work with most people. I don't think young people would respond to his personality. The young people in our grad program want to perceive themselves as near equals to most others and want respect immediately. Which there is nothing wrong with. however, I don't think that would go over well with AJ's personality. Again, unless he has changed drastically since he retired. Corporate America deals with the challenge of dealing with millennial attitudes every day these days. Surprised we don’t read more about that as it relates to professional sports.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) If you say so, it must be true. Nope, just a point of view.