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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago New York, USA no surprise, teams have checked back in on samardzija. chisox 3 1/2 out. still not that likely to deal him. I honestly wouldn't be upset if they dealt him. Prices seem high, and we're going to cool down.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:32 AM) WTF would we DFA him? Makes 0 sense. I was being dramatic.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:11 AM) Lol you really dislike Avi. There have been plenty of young players with exceptional physical tools to struggle the first couple years of their careers and still wind up reaching their potential. It happens. I believe Avi will come along in due time. I do, very much. I acknowledge that there is a chance Avisail Garcia turns into a good player. But I also acknowledge that there is a chance every player in the MLB turns into a good player. It might happen, but it very much probably will not happen.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:06 AM) Avi? They would send him to AAA before that happens. No way they get rid of him. QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:06 AM) He meant Leury QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:07 AM) No, he meant Avi Yep, I meant Avi. I'm being dramatic, of course. But still.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 1m1 minute ago Teams talking to #WhiteSox say they're struggling with how impact of Cespedes or Upton would impact roster. Already overloaded at OF/DH/1B DFA Garcia

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) I think your right they also are trying to get the Yankees SS prospect in a deal for Kimbrel. I'm guessing Jorge Mateo?

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 08:40 AM) Don't think Correla is related to Upton. Words is Astros looking at Ross and or Kimbrel. But I'd be shocked if the Padres were only seeking a young SS in trades for some of their players on the block. I think it's more likely they're asking all teams for young SSs.

So basically I assume the Padres are insisting on Anderson and we're countering with Cleuluis Rondon. And so we won't be getting Upton.

Middlebrooks was the only player in the entire league I wanted less than Avisail Garcia when we traded Peavy.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 04:47 PM) Out of Upton and Cespedes, I think Upton would sign an extension of the two. No chance at all that either signs an extension before free agency.

QUOTE (Mbs1969 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) We are sellers! "Sox become buyers; acquire Sellers"

Maybe it's just that he's a terrible player.

I'd take the gamble if it came practically free (Single A live arm + absorb contract), but I'd not give up any of our already scarce minor league talent.

It's just fun to be back in it. Wish we were in a position to actually add, though.

I f***ing hate Carlos Gomez. But I've still got a pipe dream where we send Avisail Garcia as a significant part of the package to get him.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) Q is headed South IMO. Just look at his record. He is a mediocre big league starter, which is why he won't get much in a trade. lol

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 09:38 AM) Here are some packages that I think could happen. Toronto gets: SP Jeff Samardzija and RP Zach Putnam White Sox get:SP Sean Reid-Foley, RP Miguel Castro, OF Anthony Alford Yankees get: SP Jeff Samardzija White Sox get: SS Jorge Mateo, C Gary Sanchez Giants get: SP Jeff Samardzija White Sox get: SS Christian Arroyo, SP Miguel Santos, SS Kelvin Beltre Pirates get: SP Jeff Samardzija White Sox get: OF Austin Meadows, SS Alen Hanson Dodgers get: SP Jeff Samardzija and RP Zach Putnam White Sox get: OF Alex Verdugo, SP Zach Lee, C Austin Barnes Those are all too much. I'm not trying to be a jerk but we're just not going to get as much back for him as you're suggesting.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 11:37 AM) Catcher around #10 in the Astros system is still better than a comp pick. QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 11:37 AM) That's certainly not nothing. Jacob Nottingham is a pretty good prospect. Yeah, I exaggerated a bit. But still -- we shouldn't be expecting a household name.

ADA isn't garbage. He just isn't especially good, either. Teams like the Orioles and Athletics have been surprising pundits over the past several years simply by making sure every position has AT LEAST an ADA instead of some complete meltdown player. Meanwhile, teams like the Brewers and Rockies continually disappoint despite having several elite players because they tolerate using the corpse of Alex Gonzalez as a first baseman. Obviously the Sox believed in Avi, even if I disagree. It was an upside play that hasn't panned out. If you give them the benefit of the doubt in assuming Avi was a good prospect, the move was entirely defensible -- but it was never some obvious slam dunk decision and this example is one that illustrates why.

So Kazmir brought essentially nothing back. Everyone temper your expectations for Samardzija.

Fans undervalue players who are not awesome, but not black holes. We could call it the ADA Effect if we wanted.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 09:05 AM) I assume most of you have seen this article today: http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/137...10400-819207683 Anyone have strong thoughts on these players? 1. Dodgers -- he suggests Alex Guerrero, which suggests he doesn't know about Guerrero's opt out that essentially makes him a rental for us and therefore a bad option. More evidence that Rogers knows less about baseball players than our message board posters do. Schebler or Barnes make a ton of sense, though. Especially Barnes. 2. Giants -- Christian Arroyo is probably a really realistic return, actually. 2013 first rounder who usually appears toward the back of the top ten Giants prospects but has had some helium this year. Might be a SS, might be a 2B 3. Blue Jays -- While I agree that the Sox should prefer positional prospects to pitching prospects at this point, I think it's a little ridiculous to suggest that there won't be a fit simply because that Sox won't want any pitching prospects. If the Jay offer the highest grade talent, they should get something done. 4. Yankees -- I didn't get to see Jagielo myself (he was here the year before I started working for Staten Island), but while he seems like the perfect fit for us on paper, the up and down nature of his value has me worried that he's another guy who is notable mostly jsut because he's a Yankees prospect. I've read a lot of mixed stuff on him. 5. Astros -- Tony Kemp would be a great get in terms of value. I actually think it's probably a little rich. Stassi would be good for us too, but I'm pretty sure the Astros see him as their catcher going forward. Colin Moran is extremely polarizing, with enough people thinking he's absolute garbage that I'd be wary of him as a centerpiece. Domingo Santana is a good prospect and probably a realistic centerpiece even if I hope we can do just a touch better.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) Does it really matter? Soto blows as does Tyler. Both are good enough to contribute a bit and hit a homer now and then. It's not like Soto is good; he's OK. And believe it or not Tyler is OK. Why does everyone keep saying this? What are you people seeing?

He gotsta go. Cool article, Brian

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 09:46 AM) unless the sox deals with the idea that saladino, mj, or sanchez will take over, a ss in the fa market is going to cost more in money and yrs..... with Aelxei the sox know they still have hm for 1 more yr and 1 more yr for the continue development of anderson. Exactly -- I'm not advocating extending Alexei or anything, I just don't see a better option for 2016.