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QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:42 PM) The deal obviously largely comes down to whether Moncada pans out. Even if he's a 3-4 WAR player under team control for 6 years (not crazy at a premium position like 2B or 3B), that's a decent baseline. That's a big target for a guy who has trouble with contact and does not have a strong glove. He needs to improve his contact as next step for his development, I'm not overly optimistic Sox farm or ML staff have a track record of doing that.

This one actually hurts more for Boston, the total cost for Sale might be much higher than the $40 M surface value. Boston Sports Info ‏@bostonsportsinf 1h1 hour ago Remember..remember to add the $63 million it cost Sox to sign Yoan to the assets to get Chris Sale

Boston Sports Info ‏@bostonsportsinf 1h1 hour ago Chris Sale AL ranks since 2012 (min 100 GS) ERA - 1st WHIP - 1st CG - 1st SO - 1st OPS against - 1st alrighty then

This is from the Red Sox forum: Most feel that they underpaid for this deal (does not happen with normal Red Sox meatheads) They are also skeptical if Moncada will ever figure out how to hit the breaking pitches, strikeout numbers is a concern.

1. Does this give us a top 10 as it stands? I think we would be in the mid 20's before this trade. 2. I would have much preferred a Benintendi and Devers package over Moncada and Kopech, because a) would preferred two position player as headliners, b)the latter are bigger question marks, while the former may have a slightly lower ceiling, but they are much safer options. Anytime you're trading a superstar like Sale, you need to have surefire returns that's big league ready. I am not as sold on Moncada as I'm with Benintendi.

The let's go buttcheeks chant tonight had me dead lol

They are rebuilding. What rat's ass you give about them resigning Lawrie for $3.5M?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 2, 2016 -> 07:51 PM) I wish I had your confidence that re-signing last year's bad starters means that they are now placeholders. The only way signing Lawrie makes any sense to me is if they are moving he or Saladino to 3rd as, indeed, placeholders. Here were last year's mere placeholders: Jimmy Rollins: $2,000,000 Austin Jackson: $5,000,000 Dioner Navarro: $4,000,000 Mat Latos: $3,000,000 Matt Albers: $2,000,000 Jacob Turner: $1,500,000 Alex Avila: $2,500,000 Total $20,000,000 Anyone who criticizes such astuteness is clueless. What's new? Go to every roster and there were players that had years, add up their salary and viola! there's your list. Hindsight is 20/20. Some of those players were thought to be good gambles at that point to complement the core that we had.

The number of title changes is a head scratcher, but from the sound of it this rivalry is done with for a while. I think we're definitely getting a Sasha Bayley match for Rumble and maybe Mania.

That Sasha Charlotte match was incredible to close out RAW. Even though she lost the title, I grew to like Charlotte a lot tonight, another great in ring performance and so much emotion at the end after the loss.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 06:35 PM) Kate Upton tweeted "Hey MLB, I thought I was the only one allowed to f*** Justin Verlander" Two writers from Tampa didn't even have him on their ballot. Probably did not watch baseball in 2016

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) Said one AL exec, who said he had knowledge of their thinking, "The last 327 fans of the team are really fed up with the skinny bastard." I like that you think the Sox actually have more than 300 fans left these days

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 11:25 AM) Might be fun to make some predictions. I'll go ahead and say Collins is #52, Burdi is #73, Fulmer is #89. Historically speaking, BA likes to rank our guys in the back half of the 100, so I will say Collins 74 and Burdi 92.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 02:01 AM) They basically made it seem like Spencer Adams is a fringey top 100 guy, probably just misses it. So that likely means that Collins, Burdi, and Fulmer all make it, which probably isn't much of a surprise. I'll be surprised if Fulmer made it. I will Collins and Burdi will be in the 70-100 range.

Looks like they're retrying the Lesnar/Goldberg bit from last week.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Oct 31, 2016 -> 07:01 PM) 82-0 still intact I'm fine with 74-8.

It's hard to cut a face promo when your gimmick is "th boss". Agreed that she should turn heel. I also do not like that the Women's title has changed hand 4 times in the last 4 months. EDIT: the rivalry was better when Becky was involved. Becky is good as face, Charlotte is a good heel, Sasha to me is a tweener.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) Taking pictures with jurors and the judge afterwards. Love our justice system Maybe they're Knicks fans?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Apparently Bauer wanted to burn his finger to stop the bleeding. That guy is crazy! He'd be wiser to burn his drones instead.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 08:48 AM) Tomlin and Bauer aren't any worse than any of the Royals SP from last year. Based on what? I'd debate that. Kluber is one of the best in the game right now, but there is a huge drop off after him. Kluber, Bauer and Tomlin is the worst trio out of all PO teams this year, and it's not that close. The latter two were also horrific post ASB and suddenly caught second wind in the postseason.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 10:59 PM) Pretty sure the Indians are the actual team of destiny here. Probably destined to get smacked by the Cubs. They reek of a team who comes up short on the final test, highly overachieving right now and winning too many close games. They've been more lucky than good if you ask me. I have not been following them closely, but on surface Tomlin and Bauer are absolutely not #2 and #3 PO starters. Even if Salazar comes back, he was horrific in the post ASB. Their OF and catcher position players are probably the worst in recent postseason memory. Bullpen is a question mark outside of Miller and Allen. That said, Miller is a real life video game player right now, easily cutting the game from 9 to 7 innings. Their defense plus timely offense has been incredible (only 3 players hitting above .230 in the postseason), let's see how long this could hold up (I'd like it to hold up for another 5 games).

With Kershaw only throwing 84 pitches tonight, you gotta think he's out there again for game 5 again.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 12:16 AM) Rodon was the #3 pick in the draft and easily the most developed and dominant college pitcher in the draft. As it is, he has a ERA of 4 and a WHIP of 1.4 Is that development? What about the inability to develop anyone beyond Nate Jones in the pen? Or a #4 or #5 starter? What about not letting Junior Guerra pitch and then cutting him? Gonzales is 32 - he was not developed by Cooper. He stabilized Gonzalez into a solid #5. Throw a parade. The staff as a whole has been a little better than average at best, but mostly mediocre, for years. Cooper is a solid coach, but there is something to be said for some fresh thinking. I'm laughing at this... how does one develop a #4 or 5 starter? I think Q had the ceiling of a 4 or 5 in many's eyes but turned out better than that. In short, there aren't many pitchers who are long term #4 or 5 starters, you either improve or get replaced. Putting that blame on Cooper is asinine.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) Urias was on the table for Sale at the deadline. What do you think has changed since then? Urias had a 1.99 ERA in 40 innings in the second half, versus 4.95 ERA in the first half. He went from someone who may need more seasoning in the minors to someone who has earned a spot in the big league rotation. I think Dodger will still offer Urias for Sale, but not so much for Q, let alone a package featuring other top prospects, as suggested by OP.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) The Dodgers get today. They don't have to wait a year or two, or maybe never to see if Urias hits on his talent. If they were pressured with winning today, they would have traded Urias for someone like Q back in July. Now Urias had a few months to prove himself, and Dodgers are growing comfort with him in the rotation. Also, there are other arms they can now sign that weren't available in July.