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Sooo bad at defense Avisuck jeez

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) I'm the opposite, as I think his slider gets a lot more bad swings than his fastball. It doesn't have a whole lot of depth IMO. I'm kind of skimming between things so maybe I'm catching the bad ones. I just thing he needs another option or he is going to run into a long career of 7-8 pitch at bats and 5 inning starts.

Montas looks like he could be a set up guy next year but he really needs to develop a good change if he wants to start. Fastball command is pretty good but his off-speed pitch doesn't look like an out pitch to me.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) Totally agree, I still think you can get a talented, yet underperforming player back for Avi. I'd take a decent reliever at this point. Is Montas on a pitch count today? Website said it's a "bullpen day" so I assume we get Montas for 50 pitches then 6 innings of Carroll underwhelming the world.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) definitely someone they need to move this offseason, he just sucks The emergence of Montas should allow them to save face on that trade and just dump him too. I feel like they've put so much stock into sticking with him despite his overall suckitude because he was our big return for Jake Peavy.

Man Avi is such a bad defender

Surprised Soto hasn't gone out to give him a breather

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) i think by now, they know what they have in Olt and Micah Johnson. Not many are positives. Might as well just play out the string. They need warm bodies in the lineup. I think you meant Carlos Sanchez. Micah should be starting every game to evaluate his defensive improvement. Even an adequate fielding 2b with Micah's on base/speed potential is super valuable to this club.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) The only pretenders are the people thinking Trace Thompson's performance the final 2 weeks of the season pulls any weight for 2016. Hopefully Trayce finishes with 40 games played, that way they can establish that 25% of a season worth of him is worth far more than 100% of a season of Avi Garcia and dump that loser.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 11:15 AM) That leaves 20 days. Eaton's only true bad month was April, May and August weren't great but he was still a fine for a leadoff guy. April - .191/.241/.256 May - .262/.325/.402 June - .276/.355/.459 July - .320/.421/.536 August - .259/.347/.333 September - .379/.438/.483 Pretty much his amazing July negated his April and he has been otherwise solid every other month.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 04:05 PM) Who is on the far right? And is that Trayce in the Tropics uni? The rest are easy. I think far right is Montas

Where are we in the draft pick area right now?

So with a lefty on the mound why didn't we just pinch run Beckham for Flowers and then PH Trayce for Saladino & Abreu for Micah?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 12:21 PM) Yea but how fast was the pitch? Avi looks good against the 88-90 mph guys too Olt cranked that thing and the guy struck Avi out in the same inning. Pretty sad but since he has come here Olt has actually looked like he has more of a clue at the plate than Avi has

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 10:18 AM) What if he learned not to swing at them? Don't think that's in the cards for Avi. The guy swings at anything thrown.

What a s*** throw lol

I'd be pretty pissed to see this team trot onto the field if I paid to go to the park.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 08:05 PM) Balta for thread MVP I gotta go with Fathom, especially on the Shark call

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) Beyond belief. Serious work - compared to whom on this team? He's the team's fourth best hitter (if you include Trayce). Dude Avi sucks. Just because the rest of the team sucks too doesn't make him worth keeping.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) Because 2015 2016 and Melky has an actual track record of being a good hitter. Unless you believe peds are the reason for his drop-off, I think there's reason to expect a decent amount of positive regression next year. As for Avi, his lack of plate discipline gives me little faith he'll turn the corner. Definitely could happen, but there is nothing available today that makes me feel confident that he'll be more than the next Viciedo. Avi and Melky both suck but considering the amounts of money they make we are stuck with Cabrera, which means if we want to improve we have to move Avi, which won't happen because Hahn and KW have a boner for him, so next year our 4-5 with be Cabrera/Garcia again and we will continue to have rallies die after Abreu.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 08:26 PM) He was going oppo with some authority earlier. For like 20 games. The other 80 he has played have been awful offensively. His defense is above average but his bat does not justify being a ML starter.

Extend QO to Shark - Comp pick Decline option on Alexei Ramirez DFA Tyler Flowers Trade RF Avi Garcia, 2B Carlos Sanchez, SP Tyler Danish and DH Adam LaRoche for to Padres for Matt Kemp, minor league C Austin Hedges & 6 mil cash considerations each season. Trade Jose Quintana to Dodgers for Yasiel Puig and C Yasmani Grandal W/ 5mil per year Salary Relief Resign Geo Soto - 1yr/4mil & Albers - 1yr/3 mil Sign Ben Zobrist - 2 yr/25 mil to play 3B. Sign Mat Latos - 1yr/9mil Sign Mike Aviles 1 yr/4mil Line-Up CF Adam Eaton (L) 3B Ben Zobrist (S) 1B Jose Abreu ® RF Yasiel Puig ® DH Melky Cabrera (S) LF Matt Kemp ® C Yasmani Grandal (S) 2B Micah Johnson (L) SS Tyler Saladino ® Starting 5 Chris Sale (L) Mat Latos ® Carlos Rodon (L) Erik Johnson ® John Danks (L) Pen L Dan Jennings R Dan Webb L Zach Duke R Matt Albers R Franklin Montas R Nate Jones R David Roberston (CL) Bench OF Trayce Thompson R OF J.B. Shuck L C Geo Soto R IF Mike Aviles (S) Payroll would sit around where it is this season, the LaRoche albatross is gone and the Sox pick up a top tier catching prospect, Saladino holds down SS until Anderson is ready, the outfield defense improces and Abreu finally gets some protection.

He should see the majority of the starts the rest of the way to judge if his D has improved. We know what Sanchez is at this point.

Sale got a few K's with the slider but he only used it when he really needed it. The best version of Chris Sale that we see throws the fastball from 95-98 and then mixes it in 90-92, his change is outstanding as well but without the slider hitters and just sit and wait on his fastball and if they guess the location right his velocity helps them out even if they don't put a huge charge into the ball.

Damn I really thought it was getting through