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QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 16, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) Davidson will need at least another year in AAA. Offensively he is another Tyler Flowers. He will probably hit 10-15 HR but he strikes out better than 1 out of every 3 ABs and he does not draw many walks. He is a mediocre defender probably similiar to Gillaspie. Davidson is still 23 so maybe by 2016 he figures it out. Saying Davidson has 10-15 HR potential is laughable. He clearly has 20+ potential, possibly even 30. K rates are based on K/PA not ABs. At the AAA level, his K rate is roughly 28%. That is not good, but it's not going to lead the league or anything either. His BB rate is fine. At the AAA level it is roughly 9%. That would be higher than anybody on the Sox current roster not named Adam Dunn. I honestly think part of Davidson's problem this year is that the disappointment of not making the roster has caused his issues. I really felt like he was ready to be the opening day starter.

This is discussed pretty extensively here: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=92728

If Buehrle can pitch 5 or 6 more seasons at somewhere near his career averages, and with his style I believe he can, here would be his all time ranks in some key categories: Wins: 260 - 280 (41st - 32nd) Innings Pitched: 4000 - 4300 (41st - 34th) Strikeouts: 2300 - 2500 (48th - 41st) bWAR: 70 - 80 (30th - 27th) While his rate stats aren't the greatest, part of that can be attested to pitching at the Cell most of his career. Believe it or not, Buehrle has a better WHIP and ERA+ than Tom Glavine who was a shoe-in this year. Voters also like a player to have his memorable moments and Buehrle has those in spades. A perfect game, a no hitter, the consecutive batters retired record, being part of the 4 consecutive complete games in the ALCS, the relief appearance and save a day after starting in the World Series and others. Those things stick in the minds of voters. He also never had any off the field issues to hurt him. When you combine all that with his 4+ Gold Gloves, 5+ All-Star appearances, the World Series ring, the 13+ consecutive seasons of 200 IP, and the 14+ consecutive seasons of 10+ wins, there is an argument to made for him being in the Hall of Fame. Now I personally don't think he gets there unless he hangs on long enough to make a serious run at 300, but I do think that anybody that immediately scoffs at the idea of Buehrle as a HOFer really needs to take another look at his resume.

Sox final record - 80-82 Abreu final line - .305/.361/.642 with 52 HR, 132 RBI. 2nd half slash of .320/.385/.656, wins ROY, leads league in HR and RBI. Sale final line - 16-2, 1.99 ERA, .900 WHIP. 2nd to King Felix in Cy Young. Writers use the less innings pitched argument to offset Sale's better numbers. Who gets traded - Dunn and DeAza for sraps. Alexei and Danks made available but no team ponies up a good enough offer. Any odd ball predictions - Conor Gillaspie wins the batting title

QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) Sox final record: 75-87 Abreu final line: 270/320/580 - 38 HR (Wins ROY) Sale final line: 13-5 Who gets traded: Ramirez, Dunn. Who do the Sox bring in: pass This would be a horrible disappointment for Abreu. To end with that line, he would have to go about .243/.294/.517 in the second half. Yuck. Not to mention the fact that to slug .517 with a .243 average and just 9 homers is damn near impossible. He would have to hit about 40 doubles.

My favorite difference between Sale and Kershaw is the fact that Kershaw will make $164 million from 2014-2019, Chris Sale will make $56.65 million.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 02:40 PM) This year, Sale is at 93.4, Kershaw is at 93. Not a huge, huge difference. Seems they both sit in the 92-95 range, with Sale reaching peak velocity a little more often. I kind of wonder if Sale still has the 99-100 he had when he came up out of the pen if he wanted it. He seems to hit 96-97 with some amount of regularity.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 17, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) Eh, I think Kershaw is a better pitcher than Sale overall. I don't think he quite has the wipe out slider, but he has a cleaner delivery, it's harder to pick up the ball, and he's better at holding runners. They're both incredible pitchers. I kind of agree with this at this point. I don't think Sale has peaked yet where Kershaw probably has. I will say that if we are talking about who we would rather have all things considered (contract, age, etc.), I would take Sale any day of the week.

Here's a good link to Baseball America's top 100 lists since they started in 1990. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...spects/all-time Only White Sox players ever in the top 10 were: Jason Bere - #8 - 1993 James Baldwin - #8 - 1994 Jon Rauch - #4 - 2001

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 16, 2014 -> 06:53 AM) Speaking of poaching nicknames, Reds fans call Aroldis Chapman "The Cuban Missile" Cespedes also goes by The Cuban Missile.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Abreu_%28baseball%29 Is it official? i hate this nickname. I don't even understand how hawk came up with this one. You don't understand how he came up with the name? What's not to understand? It is because the ball leaves the bat like it was shot out of a cannon. I thought it was pretty self explanatory.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 10:52 AM) Would Aiken be allowed to sit out next season and then become a free agent? QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 11:01 AM) Well once he would become a free agent I don't believe he would have to sign until he wants but him sitting a year would be detrimental to his development. I believe because of the 40% offer, he would be ineligible for free agency. If he does not accept he either goes to college in which case he cannot be drafted until his Junior year or he sits out an re-enters the draft next year. I may be wrong, but this is the way I understand it.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) Highly unlikely he becomes a FA. If he did though... Zero chance of him becoming a free agent. If they allowed him to become a free agent that would set a dangerous precedent.

The site is displaying all kinds of goofy for me today. Everything is center justified and I'm having the same issue you mentioned. Wasn't sure if it was my web browser or what was going on.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 06:00 AM) how, when and where, during this course of conversation did I bring up race. again, I was talking about the draft and money allotted salary, how does race plays into it??? You are being absolutely ridiculous. His point had absolutely nothing to do with race and you know it. His entire point was that if Rodon had been an amateur free agent, he would have been paid more than the bonus the Sox gave him. Whether he be Cuban, Puerto Rican, Japanese, whatever. I'm sure the Cuban example was used because of the influx of Cuban players the past few seasons. Stop embarassing yourself by trying to start a race issue that does not exist.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) Lance Stephenson, here we come! lmao I really want nothing to do with that guy. He is a cancer to his team and arguably the biggest douche bag in the NBA.

When it comes to this offseason, I'm not believing anything until I hear it from the player themselves. Stein, Broussard, SAS and pretty much every other NBA writer are so full of s*** and just write s*** to get reactions out of people.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 02:40 PM) Stein on ESPN 1000 basically saying that the Bulls have never been in it and they know it. I just don't buy that for a second. If they had no chance Melo wouldn't have met with them first or spent the most time with them.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 02:16 PM) LOL Sometimes I actually wonder if I was a Yankees fan in a past life because I never really have disliked the Yankees at all but for some reason I have always HATED the Red Sox, passionately. I just hate them so bad that I still couldn't even root for them even after the acquired Peavy & Thornton and got those guys rings. And so wow, what a great thing it is to go into Boston and have entire pathetic organization roll over like pathetic little puppies for the likes of Scott Carroll and co. AND NOW they are not only going to roll over for us but they are going to LICK OUR BALLS TOO by letting us get AJ back for nothing!!! YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SS MERCY! God damn it this day awesome! Sign AJ now, just f***ing DO IT! Give them some s***ty prospect, take back $1M or whatever, and let's do this thing right now so he has the chance to homer against these dips***s before the series is even out! YES! Put it on the board! They won't have to give anything for him if they want him. The $3+ million remaining on his contract is enough to prevent any team from making a claim, and once he clears waivers he will sign for the pro-rated minimum with whomever he chooses from the interested teams.

He don't have a whole lot left in the tank, but it's certainly more than Flowers has.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 01:52 PM) Does everyone think Lester sucks or something? He clearly doesn't. If you want to complain, complain about Scott Kazmir. I think Scherzer was a worse pick.

Well this is a very worthwhile and informative thread. I don't think it's a desperate cry for attention at all.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 3, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) 0 chance he's out of the league then. Vet min to Miami would be nice for him, if not a little redundant, they'll just need bodies. Yea I don't think there's any chance he'll be out of the league. I just wonder whether somebody will throw a $4 or $5 million claim on him saving the Bulls that money. If they don't he'll certainly sign for the vet minimum pretty much wherever he wants to go.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 3, 2014 -> 07:55 AM) Isn't the way that this works someone will put up a couple million dollars for him and the Bulls will pay the remainder? No way he's out of the league this year. He goes to whoever is the highest bidder and then the Bulls only have to pay the difference between his salary and the bid. If he goes unclaimed he becomes a free agent.

So if the Bulls do amnesty Boozer, what's the odds that somebody puts in a bid on him?