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Great. Now we get to have another love fest all year long like last year for Mariano. Personally I've never been a fan of Jeter. Probably would have liked him okay if he didn't play for the Yankees, but being a Yankee caused everything he ever did to be the greatest even if it wasn't.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 12, 2014 -> 11:33 AM) Just about every multi year contract in baseball worth over 10 or more million a year is a bad contract. Yet they keep signing 'em up. It's so funny to see you say that contracts over $10 million per are bad contracts, but then also post that we should trade for Buehrle who is set to make $37 million over the next two years. Contradict yourself much?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 12, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) At this very moment, I knew the Bulls were going to win the NBA Title. Then LeBron defended D-Rose the next four games and c u next year! Then Derrick Rose broke forever. I think Taj's putback dunk at the end of that game was one of the best I've ever seen.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 10:03 PM) I understand the disappointment in Dunn but don't understand the hatred. He's not a team cancer, never a PED suspect, and overall seems like a pretty decent guy. Exactly. He also was our best offensive player last year, but don't bother trying to convince TUC of that. He's proving to be almost as big of a troll as Marty lately.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 06:33 PM) Brady Anderson was gay? I just checked google and yes, it appears there is a message board listing all gay players including some posters claiming to have had gay affairs. http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/26603?forumpage=1 All I want to know is that if someone who is gay is in the Sox locker room who does the "handling" heh hehe hehehhehe (Ross Gload witch laugh) So you found one thread on a gay message board of lists who a bunch of gay guys think/wish are gay and that is supposed to be evidence of something?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 02:29 PM) Yes, it's specifically mentioned in the mlb.tv agreement. A sling box isn't though, if you want to get the product legally. Yes you would be getting around the user agreement for MLB.tv, but would certainly be violating the user agreement for your friend's/parent's cable or satellite. Not to mention using an immense amount of their bandwidth.

QUOTE (Jake @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) You can get a VPN-enabled router which will place you outside your current market. I'm not the expert on set-up and all that, though. I live outside Chicago market as it is. I've thought about a VPN router too, but am admittedly a little ignorant on the subject. Just curious, does anybody know the legality of it?

If it weren't for blackout rules I would drop satellite and buy MLB.tv ($140), NBA League Pass Broadband ($65 for 5 teams) and NHL Gamecenter ($150). Combine those 3 with Hulu Plus and Netlix and you're looking at around $559/year. That's a lot better than the $1200 I pay a year for Dish Network. But alas, until they get rid of those ridiculous blackout rules that plan will never work.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 11:17 AM) Nobody here expects it, just that it's a mistake by Golden Boy Rick. Please nobody take this troll's bait. I don't think I can go through this again.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 11:05 AM) Absolutely true, straight from the GMs mouth. And no matter how many times Hahn says it and no matter how many times poster on here say it, certain people just can't get it through their heads and still expect the Sox to sign one of them.

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 09:19 AM) What about the idea of signing Santana to a one year deal with the idea of trading him at the deadline? He would lose eligibility of being offered the qualifying offer next offseason and we could receive a package of prospects that would be closer to helping than a second round pick. It would also help his value (if he pitches good). Obviously, the only risk is money and possibilty and second round pick. I think there is zero chance Santana ends up settling for a one year deal after seeing the contract that Arroyo got. Plus is what Santana brings back in a trade really going to be better than the 2nd round pick the Sox have this year plus the $6-$8 million they would have had to pay him for his 4 months service?

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 08:23 AM) Can you really count the strike season since nobody won anything? they definitely would have won the division but ultimately that season is lost. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 08:24 AM) They finished in 1st place. It was an empty win, but they definitely won the division. If they can award MVPs, Cy Youngs, Manager of the Year, ROY, etc. during a strike shortened year, I have no problem saying the White Sox won the division that year even though noboby "officially" won it and there were no playoffs.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Feb 6, 2014 -> 06:54 PM) Can someone explain to me why his skillset doesn't match better with RF? Really seems like fewer fielding opportunities would be better, and his strong throwing arm is even more of an asset when they need to keep a runner from going first-to-third. Is it JUST the spin on the ball? Why would he be unable to get used to RF spin if he's new to the outfield anyway? Maybe I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that when the decision was made to put Viciedo in left it was because Rios preferred RF and had experience there or something like that. Now after Viciedo has played two full seasons in left they just don't want to make him switch again.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Feb 7, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) I am just going to put this in here because I can't find the original we signed Abreu thread. Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 7m Mentioned on Hot Stove teams believed to have bid over $60M on Jose Abreu were winning #Whitesox plus #Redsox #Brewers #Astros Surprising that the Rockies aren't mentioned as there were reports they were finalists as well. Yea who knows? There was a lot of misinformation being spread during that whole ordeal, maybe the Rockies interest was over stated or they just weren't willing to go that high. Even if they went to $55 million or something that's still a respectable bid.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 7, 2014 -> 09:37 AM) I would be for signing a veteran FA pitcher to fill the mentor role that Tim Hudson did with the young Braves staff. I also think that EJ should start in AAA to get more innings in there before be promoted full time, there is really no hurry. Somebody like a Jake Westbrook, Arroyo, Harang, or Burnett. I dont anticipate they would be much more than a fifth starter, but they could help Coop in the development on the young staff. I just don't see the point in sending Erik Johnson to AAA. He dominated both AA and AAA last year through 142 innings. He really has nothing more to prove in the minors and because the Sox aren't expected to contend this year, there is no reason not to give him a shot. I really see no point in paying somebody like Burnett or Arroyo $10 million to pitch for a non contending team while taking innings away from a pitcher who is expected to be a part of our future. Let Johnson start this year and take the bumps that are going to come during a rookie season. Then in 2015 or 2016 when the Sox are ready to contend, he will have that valuable experience from 2014 and hopefully will be ready to be a starting pitcher for a contending team.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 7, 2014 -> 08:00 AM) You can at least watch The Big Bang Theory, and some are really good IMO. I don't know how anyone gets through an episode of How I Met Your Mother. I tried to watch it, and tried to like it, but it is turrble. I think both shows are absolutely horrible.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Feb 6, 2014 -> 12:09 PM) LOL I learned these lessons at the high priced grocery stores a long time ago. Buy meat on sale, freeze it. Buy things like soap and deodorant with virtually indefinite shelf lives and you save money. Fill your car up with better grade when the gas is cheap. You seem to really have no understanding how to properly spend money, sorry. Isn't that the opposite of saving money? If gas is cheaper, why would you throw your savings away buy going with a better grade? Sounds like you don't understand how to properly spend money.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 6, 2014 -> 08:20 AM) So if you're a basketball player and football cleats go on sale for $100 (normal price $159.99!), are you going to buy them with the intention of using them on the basketball court? This isn't exactly true, as the Sox can always use pitching, but just because something is "on sale" does not mean it is appropriate to buy it. Trust me, we understand that they are cheaper, but the Sox signing them does not make sense. They've suggested as much and they are appropriately staying away from these conversations. I can't wait until those two sign with teams just so these threads die. That and I really hope they sign large contracts. If Santana ends up signing for 4/40 or something cheap like that we'll have to hear "look at how cheap we could've gotten Santana, RH doesn't know what he's doing, rabble, rabble, rabble" from Marty until the end of time.

I would be curious just to find out the value of the rings on his hand. I mean even bench warmers championship rings go for big bucks, imagine what Jordan's would go for.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 12:14 PM) If they offered $155M and lost, maybe they get credit. Offering anywhere from $35-55M less, no credit. So they make the smart business move for the White Sox and back off when the bidding gets out of hand and they receive no credit for that?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 11:50 AM) Biggest international contract in the history of baseball at the time of the signing, currently second biggest. Yea, but Marty said he doesn't count so he doesn't count. Okay? He doesn't need a reason, what he says, goes. Got it?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 11:28 AM) I don't think bidding on a player that you ultimately do not get is worthy of credit. So you criticize the team for not spending the money that they supposedly have, but when they do try to spend it, it doesn't count. Makes a lot of sense.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 4, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) espnmlb ‏@espnmlb 42m Reports: Freeman, Braves agree to big deal: The Atlanta Braves have locked up another key member of their futu... http://es.pn/1jcGqMr Anybody else think this Freeman deal is a little steep? He still has 3 arb years left. I'm really surprised that they didn't wait at least one more year to see if the 2013 Freddie Freeman was the real Freddie Freeman. It just seems like a lot of money to guarantee a player that young after one good year.

Didn't see this posted anywhere else. Apparently MLB Network is doing a "Face of MLB" contest and Paulie is up against Kershaw in Round 1. Here's a look to MLB Network's facebook post regarding it and how to participate. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...1694&type=1

QUOTE (beautox @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 06:00 AM) Yes I think this core can win and as everyone knows once your in the post season its a crap shoot. On average you need about 45WAR to have a solid playoff run but you only need about 40 to have a shot at the WC. Lets take a look at what oliver says projecting for '15 and not taking into account our upcoming season. Side note: I was nothing short of amazed seeing Hahn pick up eaton and davidson after i was hoping something of that nature would occur during the trade deadline last season. Which brings me to thinking that we eventually land Grandal this trade deadline or next offseason. I think the padres make a run at the dodgers in the west and will need some more depth to pull it together as the season progresses. DH R Dayan Viciedo 26(in '15) .257/.307/.412 34HR 94wRC+ 0.5WAR - Oliver 15 C S Yasmani Grandal 26(in '15) .250/.353/.387 10HR 112wRC+ 3.8WAR - Oliver 15 1B R Jose Abreu 28(in '15) .270/.334/.465 25HR 122wRC+ 2.2WAR - Fans(19) 2B R Marcus Semien 24(in '15) .236/.309/.404 19HR 93wRC+ 2.9 - Oliver 15 SS S Carlos Sanchez 22(in '15) .312/.353/.423 5HR 105wRC+ 3.6 - Aybar '09 3B R Matt Davidson 24(in '15) .215/.288/.390 22HR 82wRC+ 0.7WAR - Oliver 15 LF L Adam Eaton 26(in '15) .265/.343/.380 9HR 100wRC+ 3.4WAR - Oliver 15 CF L Coby Rasmus 28(in '15) .243/.313/.451 26HR 107wRC+ 3.2WAR - Oliver 15 RF R Avisail Garcia 23(in '15) .289/.333/.448 18HR 112wRC+ 3.3WAR - Oliver 15 OF L Jordan Danks 28(in '15) .236/.321/.378 4 HR 91wRC+ 0.4WAR - Oliver 15 UT S Leury Garcia 24(in '15) .258/.307/.360 2HR 81wRC+ 0.6WAR - Oliver 15 UT L Conor Gillaspie 27(in '15) .248/.314/.402 5HR 92wRC+ 0.4WAR - Oliver 15 C S Adrian Nieto 25(in '15) .229/.305/.356 3HR 80wRC+ 0.4WAR - Oliver 15 SP L Chris Sale 26(in '15) 4.1WAR - Oliver 15 SP L Jose Quintana 26(in '15) 3WAR - Oliver 15 SP R Erik Johnson 25(in '15) 1.2WAR - Oliver 15 SP L John Danks 30(in '15) 0.6WAR - Oliver 15 I think our bullpen will be capable of producing 3WAR, last year alone we produced 5.7WAR cumulatively with the likes of Leesman, Troncoso, Heath & Axelrod dragging it down to tune of -0.3 each. Add it all up and we're at 37.3WAR with out the addition of another starter. This projection assumes we land Grandal, Sign Rasmus in the off season, Abreu repeats his projection for '14 and that Carlos Sanchez develops into an Erik Aybar type of player (which i personally believe he can, he's got a great hit tool and i think people are sleeping on his this offseason in prospect lists, I think both he and thompson really break out this year.) Personally I think the sox compete in '15 and our system gets a significant boost after we move through De Aza, Ramirez, Beckham and Dunn in addition to the likes of Jones and the other relief core mid season. Good post, but the numbers for Viciedo just don't add up. There is really no way that he could hit .257 with 34 HRs and end up with a .412 SLG. Assuming he ends up around the 505 ABs he had in 2012, he would end up with 130 hits. Even if the rest of his hits were all singles, he would end up with a .459 SLG. I would say a much more realistic SLG for Viciedo if he hit .257 with 34 HRS would be about .100 higher at .517 or so. That would be 34 HR, 25 2B, and 2 3B.