Bananarchy

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) is there a link to watch livestream of Comcast coverage of Sox Fest Opening Ceremonies? It's streaming live on the White Sox facebook page. You can see all the Soxtalkers. They're the ones saying "Can't wait to trade X" as they're intro'd

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Todd you are pretty awesome. You will be traded within the blink of an eye for anything that's close to a 50/50 gamble. Pretty much. It looks like people are seeing through his power numbers.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) Interesting...some spin on the radio further distancing Paxson from Gar. Basically stating that Pax, at the direction of JR, etc, had stepped back to let Gar do his thing, hire Fred, etc. I wonder if the next time we hear from Paxson is when he is announcing that the Bulls have a new GM. I always enjoy when Pax speaks...he's always very honest and transparent. The bold is almost certainly the case. Pax isn't going anywhere. It will be up to him to fire Gar.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH I'm full meathead on this crap, too. I am wearing my White Sox jersey at work waiting for something to happen (we get casual friday. I almost always where a Chicago jersey)

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) I don't see Carson Fulmer in the top 100 anywhere. The Sox may have royally screwed him up by rushing him to the Show last year. Top 100 doesn't matter unless we never see Fulmer again.

In the last couple of days, we have seen a number of White Sox media hits in the offseason. Let's keep them in a centrally located place. Rick Hahn on WMVP today (1/27) at 3:00, 670 the Score at 3:40

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 08:57 PM) Works for me. Agreed, but I think we're dealing with both for 35 more games. After the last one, I would expect Paxson would fire Gar if JR doesn't fire everybody. If I had to guess, Pax survives this.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 08:50 PM) https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/824784358385078272 Looks like Moncada is good ole number 10. Until he makes it in the major league debut, we can't really know for sure. Beckham wore like 58 before he settled on 15

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) This is why loading up on arms is something they should never stop doing. Arms or shortstops. Preferably both. They're the currency of baseball. Shortstops can play many positions and pitchers are critical (obviously)

Hoiberg isn't going anywhere unless Gar goes with him.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) I think there is another possibility in the way the rebuild has gone. I do think it is interesting that the two "problem childs" were traded but not one other trade was made. But competing next year is not realistic. So maybe the front office felt they should do the rebuild over two seasons so that the roster was not a disaster going into sales of 2017 tickets. Then the team can still promote ticket sales for 2017 with guys like Abreu, Anderson and Q. Then do another sell-off in July with the hope that 1 or 2 of the young players already acquired will be ML ready. Then finish the sell off next winter and promote 2018 with Anderson and the young stars that have emerged. This is a little too pie in the sky. Some of these guys are going to miss.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) Autos will be a huge one as well. GM and Toyota are in big trouble. Ford and Honda will have a big advantage in this situation.

The xx is getting rave reviews for their new album "I See You" Easily my favorite of their efforts. http://www.metacritic.com/music/i-see-you/the-xx

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) Losing is one thing. Having many games blown open by the 2nd or 3rd inning could set the fanbase back a bunch. I stick until the end of blowouts until the end. I bail on rain delays. But last year, I had several Shields starts, and it was getting very difficult keeping up with tradition. People who aren't into it as much are going to become disinterested faster. I dunno. I'm not sure that's something to worry about. Being out of it in July is doing a number on this fanbase as is. At least some fans understand they're building to something.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Screw it. I'm on the Jake Peavy train now haha I think I donated my jersey

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) Wow. *throws papers and walks away* CTG Alternative Facts: If you subtract from something, it grows.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 01:56 PM) And Rodon. Well said. Everyone else is for sale.

Everyone not named Anderson on the major league roster is for sale.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 07:56 AM) 2016 - The LaRoach fiasco soured Sale and Eaton from day one and impacted team chemistry. Mat Latos had a few early wins and then fell apart. Danks lost the Home Opener and never won another game. Matt Albers fell apart after the quick start to the season. Robertson blew some big leads late in games we should have won. Ventura left him out there to get beaten up, which impacted the morale of the players and the fans. Several players did not work out - Jimmy Rollins at SS, Alex Avila and Navarro catching and Avi Garcia. Shields was a late addition who proved to be a disaster. 2017- Several lessons have been learned and the mistakes Ventura made will not be made by Renteria. For one example, Renteria handles pitchers more like Tito Francona than Ventura did. I have watched Renteria manage and is I recall he makes changes as soon as he senses trouble rather than waiting for a disastrous inning to happen. While Sale is gone, so are Latos and Danks. There are some pitching reinforcements that may come through. Moncada could inject energy to the team when he is brought up in May. Other trades might happen. I feel better slightly about the 2017 season than I did before last season. Let's wait to see what they have and how they play in ST before writing them off completely. If it gets to this, the rebuild has probably failed and we're right back where we started except without Chris Sale. I'm confident this won't happen and more pieces will be moved.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 07:31 AM) This is why that line of research as well as the soviet research on using electrical modalities to increase strength have been invalidated. Also, that training method kopech is using is designed to increase pitch velocity. Many believe that attempting to throw too hard to often (me included) is what is leading to the increased frequency of UCL issues. While this training is effective in increasing velocity, it may not be a good thing, especially in the eyes of Cooper who doesn't think velocity is everything. Besides Kopech can throw 100 already. Trying to increase velocity from there is just an ego going crazy and will not lead to anything good. Well said. I can't imagine Coop will let that keep going. His arm is an asset for the White Sox.

That plan sets our franchise back another half decade. I get what you're doing, but that's not happening.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:05 PM) There's being a front office apologist and then there's defending the Shields trade. Even Rick Hahn's dog knew that was a bad trade the instant they made it, let alone now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 05:55 PM) Around the 16 minute mark, is Bernstein suggesting the Sox will move when JR dies or that someone else will now be in charge? http://download.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d...XP__0000000k3Dk The implication is that when Jerry passes, the team will be sold. I think the TV money will keep the White Sox in Chicago long term.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) No everyone wants all the Sox players to have massive breakout seasons (do not deny this, the Predict Thy Numbers threads are insane), keep all the veterans, remain watchable but still pick #1 overall in 2018 and have a big rebuild with blue chip prospects everywhere. The definition of having your cake and eating it too. I see the Sox options as (a) rebuild or (b) dont rebuild. I dont harbor this childlike (also reflected in these pathetic """insults""") expectation that the Sox, especially with this FO, can pull off 10 different things at once. Cant have both. What are you talking about? We want Abreu, Frazier, et al to have good seasons so they make for good deadline deals.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) Well good to see the FO office sycophants are out in full force. They've done so much to earn your trust over the years I'm sure you'll be rewarded! Let's be real, this direction is enough to know someone in the front office watches baseball and knows what isn't working. The Eaton trade was a great one by Hahn.