Bananarchy

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 16, 2016 -> 06:17 PM) Harry was known as an ass hole (not to the common fan, but to the bean counter types) and the Sox were glad to see him go. Unfortunately the common fan worships Harry, rightly so, and that destroyed the Sox. Harry going over to the Cubs was a major hit. I feel like Harry was a piece of the a perfect storm on the north side. The "lovable losers", the old ballpark in that neighborhood, the stretch, and WGN. Regardless of where you were in the country, you could watch Cubs games. For a lifelong White Sox fan, I never really got it. Why cheer for a s*** product? But the Cubs accidentally captured all of it. The White Sox, at the same time, had a crap TV deal, built a new (at the time awful) stadium in a less fun neighborhood. I never got Sportschannel as a kid, so I had to go to a friend's house or hope one of the WGN White Sox games was on when I could watch. It's not hard to get why the two Chicago teams are where they are right now, but it's also not as simple as "this team had Harry Caray and this one didn't"

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 15, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) At least all the other AL central teams suck right now Rough week and only lost one game. I'll take it. No one seems to want to chase this team.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 16, 2016 -> 03:11 PM) Yeah, for Anaheim, that deal has to start with an actual star major leaguer. Russell or Bryant is the starting place of that deal. Maybe. You look at what the Marlins got for Cabrera (and Willis), and you realize that there's no winning moving the best player in baseball in his prime. The Cubs, Dodgers, or Red Sox could potentially get Trout without moving an MLB ready player. It has been done before.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 16, 2016 -> 05:16 PM) Where? Limbaugh's website? Sounds like a Breitbart headline. They are still having trouble proving malice, which is a big part of the investigation.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 16, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) Please explain how this happens. How do schools police which males are transgender and can go into the girls shower and which ones aren't? You're right about not being a troll. You're just terribly naive in thinking that this won't create a ton of problems. Honestly, I don't expect schools to be able to police. I think it should be simple. Schools should not interfere with gender identity of its students. HOWEVER, if they feel that a person is being dishonest, the school should be able to have that person talk to a psychologist (many schools employ them. Heck, they could even go to a third party).

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 16, 2016 -> 10:07 AM) I don't really get the outrage over them. Not at all a big deal to me. Agreed. They don't bother me and they don't work. I'm more annoyed by the line waiting and getting treated like a criminal for no reason.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 16, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) I'm not worried about the transgendered person. I'm worried about the straight guys who are going to claim to be transgendered in order to get a look at my daughter. I've said this at least a dozen times in this thread, so are you trolling or ignorant?????? So what you're saying is, if school officials did their job and prevented heterosexual males from claiming to be transgender, you would be all on board. Good news: Most teachers and school officials are educated enough to know the difference between a heterosexual and a transgender individual. We seriously need a moratorium on the term "trolling". You are far too quick to cry troll when your argument is terrible.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 16, 2016 -> 08:37 AM) This is the election of people complaining about candidate supporters. Every time someone does something crazy it has to be a reflection of that candidates whole base. Maybe every election is like that and I just never noticed. This one is particularly contentious on the Dem side. I think Bernie is a decent man, but his followers are desperate now that he won't be the candidate. I am seriously tired about hearing how crooked the DNC or Hillary is.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 14, 2016 -> 05:21 PM) Interesting to read about how airport security is done in Israel. https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-go...urity-in-Israel I understand that profiling isn't always the right way to go, but I do believe the use of profiling in certain ways can be efficient without trampling on the rights of good citizens.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 16, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) Yes, I don't want them checking out my daughter. Maybe none of you who are OK with this don't have daughters. I don't want to marginalize anybody. I want people to stop and come up with a different solution to the issue than letting anybody in to where anybody is showering. If a person is transgender, they probably don't care what your daughter looks like showering. Even lesbians probably don't look sideways at your daughter when she's showering. Locker rooms aren't inherently provocative places. The far right treats people like complete animals, when far and away they are not and are more responsible.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 15, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) It bothers me that you haven't read much of what I've written and don't have a clue what I'm talking about. QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 15, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) It bothers me that you don't have a clue. Wasted posts. You're afraid of transgender people. The sooner you admit that, the sooner you'll recognize what we already know. You don't understand transgender people and therefore they must be trying to assault your daughter.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 15, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) Apparently the Bernie Bros at the Nevada Democratic Convention were doing some more of what they do best. Bernie's candidacy has been doing more bad than good, it seems. His supporters are going collectively more insane.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 15, 2016 -> 01:08 PM) I'm sure for some on the far religious right, it is an attack on the "T", but for a whole lot of us, it's just simply we don't want any dudes allowed anywhere that our daughters are naked. I have sympathy for the problems that transgenders are facing. I just think we've come up with an absolutely horrible solution. Does it not bother you that your daughter's female gym teacher is as dangerous to your children as a trans high schooler?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 15, 2016 -> 11:31 AM) How many f***ing times do people have to say that it's not a fear of transgendered people--it's a fear of straight people taking advantage of the situation? It's only been said fifty times in this thread? Are you that dense or just intentionally ignoring what's been said because it doesn't jive with your far lefty commie views? And yes, there are already plenty of cases of straight guys doing exactly that. You're very passionate about this issue. Does it bother you that any law on this issue would be virtually unenforceable? Does it bother you that this whole argument is transphobia looking for a problem?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2016 -> 03:55 PM) Do people really expect a,team to,go 4-2 every week of the season? It doesn't happen. Ever. There will be more bad weeks. The Cubs will even have a bad week. Voice of reason, here.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ May 15, 2016 -> 06:13 AM) staying in OKC I'm willing to bet this as well.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 15, 2016 -> 07:10 AM) LOL! I must admit, this really is one of your funnier efforts to try and defend the indefensible, and all just to be contrarian on your part. Seriously, you must be on the dole for Reinsdorf to go on these fanciful yet highly ridiculous tangents you do to try and defend that buffoon. But you do and therefore we just have to deal with it, and continually just call out its silliness. Attendance tripled from the time Harry Caray came to the Sox and when he left. It increased by 68% just after his first year and was tripled by the end of his second. He accomplished all of this - and again, it was explicitly what he was brought into do - with the weakest of tools to support him. He was broadcasting initially on a tiny, 5,000 watt radio station in LaGrange, IL when he first got to town, and then the best he got was a UHF TV station of all things, Channel 44. HARRY CARAY TRIPLED WHITE SOX ATTENDANCE WITH THE POOREST POSSIBLE MEDIA EXPOSURE AT HIS DISPOSAL. Bill Veeck, however, managed to get the team on WGN for 1981 before he sold the team. Then Harry had the power of the superstation and it's mega-exposure with which to sell the White Sox experience. And he did so brilliantly during the strike-shortened 1981 season, resulting in the highest TV ratings ever for the Sox at that time. But then the genius owners of the Sox committed what renowned White Sox historian Richard Lindberg (or as renowned Reinsdorf apologist SS2K5 refers to just as "someone") referred to as a "mistake" by letting Caray go to the Cubs, where he took that national exposure on WGN to make both he and the Cubs a household name. The Cubs haven't looked back since. HARRY CARAY TOOK THE CUBS FROM HAVING THE SAME KIND OF ATTENDANCE ISSUES AS THE SOX TO BEING THE NATIONAL PHENOMENON THEY ARE TODAY, ALL DUE TO HIS ABILITY TO SELL THE PRODUCT ON SUPERSTATION WGN. That could have and should have been the Sox. It's that simple. But our genius owners...SportsVision...and you know the rest. This post assumes that absolutely everything that happened in Chicago baseball had to do with Harry Caray, which could not be further from the truth.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 13, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) On what planet are these two posts similar? The only similarity I see is that they are about the same guy. Both are written in English? That's about it.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 9, 2016 -> 08:50 PM) Is Gary Johnson out? He's in as per usual. He seems like the most sensible candidate in a Trump/Clinton election. I feel like I can't waste a vote on him this time around as I can't accept President Trump. That being said, I live in Texas and my vote doesn't matter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) If you didn't have the volume on, how did you know Hawk went to the clubhouse? He has the volume on. He's just not happy about it.

QUOTE (shipps @ May 13, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) Dont ask me why I am doing this but I keep on running this draft lottery simulator and the Bulls get the 14th pick every single time. It makes you wonder how the hell did they get that number one pick years ago. That draft lottery was soooooo fixed. http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/lottery_simulator It was pretty amazing, but not necessarily fixed. The Cleveland thing seemed fixed in the "LeBron Interim" years. However, they contract out the auditing and such of the draft, so I don't believe it's actually fixed.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) You would think people who supposedly can't stand Hawk and think the entire organization should be embarrassed by his presence, would be happy he left the broadcast for a little bit to go to the clubhouse. I don't think any of us want Steve Stone to pull double duty.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) Since when did we think Hawk was professional? As we have stated like 4000 times on this message board, many love Hawk because he is exactly like us - he is a superfan. He feels the same things we do and he often says them. Whether you prefer that style or you prefer the more professional style, one cannot deny that there is some portion of the fanbase that loves it. I could give a s*** if it is professional for Hawk to go down and get us an update. What I appreciated is that he did and I knew Frazier was going to be fine rather than having to wait for some schlep that Frazier didn't trust to give me some vague report only confirming what I already know - that Frazier injured his mouth. Hawk is, by definition, a professional. We expect him to act like it.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 13, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Pretty epic run for OKC just as people were ready to write their obit. Makes me think Durant will be staying put at least a while longer.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 13, 2016 -> 09:05 AM) I think he meant Caray's tenure with the Cubs was longer than Caray's tenure with the Sox. That's exactly what I meant. Thanks