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I was mixing the Darvish and Lester deals up. My bad. That's a big chunk of it. For Fowler I thought it was only 16.

Obviously there will be hits and misses with FA signings just like prospects, but a big chunk of that was from Heyward, and so I'm hoping the Sox don't make a $184 million error like that. Lester and Zobrist were key signings as was Fowler. IIRC, those 3 signings don't even combine to be $200 million.

Woah woah woah. I'm not saying dish out "billions" or hand out a ton of them. The Cubs for instance: signed Zobrist, signed Lester, traded for Chapman midseason. If the normal amount of prospects pan out, the Sox would need to add only a few impact FA's. If they assume they have a 4 year window before some prospects leave for big contracts, I could see 2020 being a year in which they give 3-4 year deals, this way those are up when Moncada, Jimenez, etc hit free agency.

That's why I said 2019. I'm under the assumption Kopech will be brought up this year. If he finishes 2019 with a 3.2 ERA, that would be a big upgrade to the TOR.

But I don't think anyone ever assumed much defensively for Davidson. To my recollection, I've only ever heard DH associated with him.

Correct. The thought process that he's still a rebuild filler is a popular one, but I'm leaning the other way. I think he could be an .870 OPS guy at the minimum, especially with his power in that ballpark with his ever-improving eye at the plate. Not sure he'll ever hit .280 or better, but .250 with 35 homers is an extremely valuable piece of a contending team.

You're awesome, Greg.

Davidson went from being a HR or bust hitter who never walked and struck out a ton, and then 6 months later, he's a smart hitter, can go to the opposite field, still hit a ton of homers, walk a decent amount and strike out much less. To me, that's unbelievable for a guy that a lot of us assumed was a rebuild filler and would never reach the potential he once had.

That's my point. Even if he has a 870-900 OPS, he's a starter on the 2020 and 2021 teams here. That'd be an unbelievable turnaround.

And to only have that many RBI would be pretty unlucky. He's hitting a ton of solo HR's, albeit the 3 run homer from Saturday. Eventually there will be some guys on base for his bombs. Only way he ends with 105 RBI is if he hits somewhere closer to 33-35 HR.

I don't know if he's a .950+ OPS guy for the rest of his prime, but if he is, he's a starter on a good team.

He also leads the team in RBI's. I hope you're right, Greg. Hard to see this but that'd be awesome.

How did you become a Sox fan? Or are you originally from Chicago?

Arrieta has gotten worse each of the last 2 seasons (he more than doubled his ERA from 2015 to 2017). Chatwood is nothing special. Jennings is mediocre (his WHIP after being traded last year almost hit 1.70). I'm not sure how you believe those 3 guys + Robertson would turn this team from a ~60 win team to a 90+ win team, but judging how you ended your post, I can assume that you're only seeking attention at this juncture.

The park is awesome, you're a Sox fan, and assuming you get good weather, you should have a good time. I've seen the Sox play there 9 times and I loved it everytime.

On the prior page of this thread, you said that the majority of the Sox best prospects won't be in the majors for another 2-3 seasons, but now you're saying the following will be up by the end of next year: Kopech, Jimenez, Collins, Dunning, Cease and Hansen. I'm so confused.

Not sure who “they” is but “they” probably made fun of every rebuilding team. Who cares really?

You’re assuming that this rebuild is going to be only the guys they have in the farm system. 1) let’s say it is and in *2019* Kopech is very good, Moncada continues to hit the piss out of the ball and Jimenez is great. Don’t you think adding a 3.20 ERA at the top of the rotation and a 35 homer guy in the middle of the order are going to be a tremendous help? 2) there are things called trades and free agent signings. Similar to the Cubs, Astros and Royals, the Sox will finally start adding pieces via these 2 avenues. 3) KC is a small market team who couldn’t pay any of their guys. The Sox will likely keep Moncada and Jimenez. Assuming the Sox will once again work their magic on a team friendly long term deal with an up and coming youngster, that will allow them to keep one more. Not every good player will leave via FA some day

Right, so do you think he would have turned down $80 million for 2 years at the same AAV from the Sox?

The Sox best hitting prospect is ready to play in the majors now, and their best pitching prospect is ideally going to be ready to pitch in the majors in a year at the latest. What are you talking about?

This post is so confusing

Interesting that you lumped Kopech in the “top end reliever but could be TOR guy” category. And I hope Lopez can be better than a 4-5. For me he’s a 3-4, at least I hope so.

By what, 20 wins? So instead of 52 wins they’d win 72? And then what?

Wouldn’t signing Moustakas mean losing a draft pick? I also don’t believe signing Moustakas would have been much help seeing as if how Sanchez and Davidson are perfectly fine at 3B/DH. Do you really think this team would be that much better with Chatwood, Jennings and Robertson? Arrieta wouldn’t have been a good signing. The best FO in baseball clearly saw he’s losing it, and every team but one had significant interest in him. Doesn’t that tell you enough? The Shields acquisition happened years ago now. Give it up.

That didn’t even look close...