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I am one happy son of b****.

Hope twins and guardians play 20 tonight

Lol wat hahaha

It’s not up to the front office. If it was, Hinch would be our manager.

They were a vibrant young team that played with fire coming off a playoff berth looking like a juggernaut for the next half decade +. Now they’re lifeless and boring, just like their manager. Injuries and lack of a finishing roster moves have played a big role, but so has Tony. Pal.

Everything with respect to the Chicago White Sox is in significantly worse shape than it was the day Tony was announced manager. He was an awful hire that somehow got even worse. How anyone that has paid attention can defend him is beyond comprehension.

Yeah, Jazz and Gimenez are really the only two that make sense from the Sox perspective. Of course Sox would need to add to that deal as both are controlled the same as AV and MI >>>> 1B masquerading as an OF. But Gimenez is never getting moved inside the division. I do feel a bit like Jazz offensive profile isn't too dissimilar from what we have (high K rate, low BB rate), but he does bat LH at least and was really good in limited sample in 22. He'd be a great guy to add to the mix and certainly fits our team better than AV. Just not sure how much the Marlins would need added to that deal to make it work for them. Maybe something like AV + Ramos gets it done. If Ramos can't stick in the IF and there are questions, they should move him this offseason while the stock is up.

Just cycle thru Romy, Mendick, Sosa and Yolbert until one sticks. No need to spend further $ on 2B. Leury will also still be on the roster, unfortunately. Other option is turning AV into a similarly controlled LH 2B that better fits the roster but I struggle to come up with that name.

Let’s go royals! Clase BS!

Is Robert can't go, I'd much rather watch Payton play than Engel or Leury.

Yes, I missed a 0 on Pollock's salary when entering into the spreadsheet. That's my bad. I am at $139M on the 13 committed salaries, so yes basically same place as you. Though Sox could easily find $5M for a 5th SP by non tendering Engel and Ruiz, or just not slashing payroll by a measly $5M. Point is, they have $20-30M to spend on an OF and 5th SP, or Abreu and whatever is needed after the trade package received for AV. I certainly prefer to see them go the let Abreu walk and sign Nimmo route, but think Sox are more likely to give Abreu 2/$30M and trade AV for a SP, unfortunately.

Sox need 2 OF, not 1. Colas is one corner, another OF in the other. Sheets and AV should be nothing but emergency OFs moving forward.

Bummer looked really good after the first couple hitters. Having a little rust is to be expected for a dude that hasn't pitched in the bigs in like 3 months.

I like Conforto, certainly was a Conforto guy going into this season before it was known he was out for the season. Its pretty obvious that he would have a been a huge piece to this team if were available. As for 2023, he'd be a solid back up option to Nimmo, but Nimmo is a better fit at this point. That doesn't mean Conforto wasn't a great roster fit for this team this year had he been healthy.

This got me curious because you've been banging this Sox have no payroll space drum for awhile, and its just really not accurate. Sox have $130m committed to 13 players in Lynn, Grandal, Moncada, Hendriks, TA, Eloy, Pollock, Robert, Kelly, Graveman, Garcia, Bummer and Diekman. They have ~$26.5m locked into 7 arb players in Giolito, Cease, Engel (non tender candidate), Kopech, Lopez, Mendick (non tender candidate) and Ruiz (non tender candidate), which include healthy raises in the arb estimates. Fill out the roster with 6 pre-arb guys and you're at ~$4m. That is approximately $160M payroll on a team with a $196M payroll in 2022. SO they have at least $30M to play with on an AAV basis and that would include a slight reduction in payroll from 2022 to 2023. There is plenty of room to sign a notable FA.

There’s plenty of money for Nimmo if Abreu is gone. They’ll get paid similarly enough on an AAV basis.

Pollock is a natural platoon for Colas, and he’s almost certainly on the roster. Still think they should sign an actual OF tho; Colas - Robert - Nimmo is a good defensive OF. I let Jose walk and put AV at 1B in this scenario. Eloy DH. But you can trade AV for SP and keep Abreu too. Sheets is Eloy insurance and Pollock 4th OF that probably ends up with 400+ ABs. It’s a much much better roster.

Is TA even for sure coming back? Fegan said he’s still a week away from baseball activities.

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To be fair, he has been since Yoan's recent injury

Harrison blows. He had one job on this team and that is to play his position. He’s been bad defensively for over a month now. So ready to be done with him.

I don’t think making up 3 games in 27 games is a “miracle” when they made up 4 games (but since lost 1) in 4 games against the very same team. Tall task? Sure. Unlikely? Yes. Miracle? Nah. I don’t really care to debate Colas with you in every thread. If they called him up it’s not like I’d be mad. But I tend to think that extra control is better than not getting extra control. AV for instance is very likely a trade candidate this offseason and he’d have significantly more value than he does if Sox weren’t inpatient and stupid. It’s not always just about 2028, it’s about trade value as well. Another example is Kopech who the Sox would have 2 more years of control of if they didn’t call him up needlessly for a couple starts in 2018 and then watch him blow his elbow out. If the Sox were gonna call up Colas, he’d be here already. So you can gnash your teeth all you’d like, but he’s not coming.

There were never 17 games left, but yeah. Cleveland is much, much more likely to play around .500 ball than .650 ball. Of course, so are the Sox. It's Cleveland's division to win (or lose). There is no doubt about that. Thankfully for the Sox, they aren't any good either. If Cleveland plays .650 ball, the Sox have no chance.

I mean I sort understand this take, but the Sox know they need to solve the AV/Abreu/Eloy issue, and get a real OF that bats LH. I expect both of those issues to be resolved. Otherwise, I do expect the roster to look very similar because there just isn't a whole lot you can do otherwise unless you're doing some drastic like trading TA. The top 4 in the rotation is set. The pen is set. The lineup is set besides an OF and 2B, with 2B having a slew of internal options. The biggest shake up is (hopefully) going to be a whole new coaching staff.

Sox definitely going to need some help from KC. But KC is 4-8 against the Guardians. I guess "absolutely own" is a bit of a relative term, but if KC can go 3-4 against the Tribe rest of the way, that'd be great. KC has a the pitching matchup advantage today - need a W. Also, the Sox have the easiest remaining schedule of the Twins, Guardians and Sox. Twins still have three in a row against the Yanks who really do "absolutely own" the Twins. WOuldn't be surprised in the least to see the Twins get swept in that series. Twins and Guardians still play 8 - would be great to see Twins get swept in NY and then turn around and win 2/3 this weekend in MN. Realistically, Sox just need to take care of their own business and play their best ball of the season these last 27. If they do that, they're going to be in it the final week.