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So basically same AAV commitment. Who knows - maybe Miller didn't want to play here. Those are the things that us fans never will really know but are definitely a part of negotiations and player decision making. Easy to say WTF - why' they choose Harrison over Miller. But if Miller wasn't interested in signing here - ya know - that's just part of the game.

Sano is what he is at this point.

Lol, the Twins aren't going to sign Conforto to the biggest contract in franchise history. Where's he gonna play? They already have 4 everyday quality OF in Buxton, Kiriloff, Larnch and Kepler. Plus Rooker. One of those guys will need to DH, along with Sano frequently. That would be a real head scratcher with their moves so far.

Until Conforto is signed I continue to remain unimpressed but content with the current offseason. If Conforto is signed, its pretty much exactly the offseason I expected sans Kimbrel still being on roster and lack of replacement for Collins. There is still time. In reality, the order of the moves is irrelevant. But its frustrating as fans to watch this unfold, but there is still hope fellas. Conforto has limited suitors and we know for sure the sox are interested, even if they haven't publicly stated a need to add to LH pop in RF since the lockout end, Hahn certainly mentioned it at the outset of the offseason. Nothing has changed since then.

Sox have the 4th highest payroll in baseball right now. Can you really call them cheap?

Much like Balta's offseason long take on the CBT not raising past $212M, he'll dig his heels in on Kimbrel being untradable until it happens. Just his bit.

The hot takes on this place are always WILD. Sox we're just picked by an unbiased source as the 2nd best roster in the game behind LAD, and since that time you'd think the Sox would be fighting to be .500 based on the negativity in here. But yes, I agree.

I don’t want Kimbrel either, but he’s useful. Honestly if we can’t get anything but salary relief in return and those dollars aren’t immediately reallocated to Conforto, the Sox are better with Kimbrel on the roster.

As long as you give it 2 innings to finish organicallY and only start it in the 12th. In the 10th is an awful rule.

Colome has absolutely nothing to do with Montas. But yeah. Hard pass on giving Crochet up for Montas.

Gross. I’d rather just hang onto Crochet and sign someone like Pineda.

Some wild theories in here today. Lol

Ill drive Parkman to the airport.

It makes no sense whatsoever. He also makes $7.5M more than Kimbrel. Its literally isn't even worth discussing.

Fair enough. Just a little sick of reading all the negativity on here lately. No ill will intended.

Nah, not really. The Sox FO isn’t nearly as dumb as some of you want to believe. But whatever, not arguing about it today.

They aren’t trading for Wil Myers. He solves exactly zero problems.

Myers bats right handed, I do believe.

Right, even if Conforto puts you over the tax by like $5M with Kimbrel still on roster, what is he first tax rate? 25%? Its kind of chump change.

Got it. Thanks. So basically you're at $192.6M CBT payroll + $16M benefits + $4M min guys for IL stints = $212.6M - $230M= $17.4M. Makes sense - thanks!

I understand that. Per sportrac, the $192.6M payroll quoted is the CBT payroll, not actual payroll. Trying to understand what makes up this $20M in added costs Balta is tacking onto the $192.6M when saying we only have $17M of space. Seems steep - just trying to understand what makes up that number.

Even if you have to eat $3M or something, could still end up being a better decision than letting him walk out the door for nothing depending on the return. Shit, i'd eat half the deal if the right guy comes back. Just depends. Now if Sox eat a nice chunk and just get filler back, obviously picking up option looks foolish. There is still hope tho.

Balta, since I know you love this CBT stuff, question for you. Sportrac has the Sox CBT payroll at $192.6M including a 27-man roster. How do you get from $37.4M in space to $17M in space? I know that CBT thresholds used to include player benefits, do we even know for that they still do in the CBA? Do player benefits really cost upwards of $20M (10% of payroll)? I know you also build in some room for guys who get called up for IL stints, etc., but $20M seems like a steep cushion for those costs. Just curious how you're coming up with those numbers.

Rodon is not special. He has talent, but he's thrown 669 innings across 7 seasons. Betting $18M that he makes more than 20 starts in 22 is a bad bet. I am going to side with the people that know more about Rodon and his health better than anyone else in the world on this one.

If Colas and/or Cespedes become average everyday regulars in the bigs, that is a huge win. They should be counted on for absolutely nothing. Neither of these guys are even top 100 prospects. I feel like this should be pinned to every thread.