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I think all of his more major injuries have happened playing the field. I don't think Eloy is really "worth" less to the Sox being a DH. He's not a good OF and he's worth nothing when he's on the IL. Seems pretty straight forward to me. If he were a good OF of course his trade value would be higher than if he were a DH only, but Sox shouldn't be worried about his trade value. They should be worried about getting him 600+ at bats because healthy Eloy can absolutely rake.

Its not really a platoon when one is in RF and one is DHing. That's the problem. For all this talk about a Vaughn/Sheets platoon, the current roster doesn't allow for it. Have to sign a RF for that to happen.

I truthfully don't believe you could trade Eloy today and improve the club. He has the upside of one of the very best RHH in the game. Will he reach that upside? Probably not if the Sox keep running him out in LF everyday, but its enormous. You'd be selling low and it just doesn't make sense.

Makes ya wonder. Leury is going to play so much RF is we don't make a move for a real OF.

Me? No. I've said I'd stretch to 5/$100M to get it done. I much prefer 4/$80Mish tho and clearly the Sox do as well. Its not my $ tho. Its not like I am going to be mad if they signed him to $5/$110M. $2M AAV is nothing.

I have never once said I want to pay him $22-25M. I think 4/$80M gets it done at this point. You had previously said you wouldn't give him more than $13M AAV which is comical.

Gio is gone in 2 years. He isn't taking an extension unless its an overpay. TA we have plenty of time to figure out, but realistically, he's probably gone too. Just hard for me to get too worked up about the 2025 season right now. Sox best window is closed by then and they'll be fully in re-tool mode.

Yet you've been assuring all of us 50x a day Conforto has 0% chance of signing with the Sox. Interesting.

A. Worry about Giolito in 2 years and TA in 3 years.

Don't tell @Polar Bear! Dude's got a 50% chance of eating the biggest crow sandwich on earth!

What to do? I dunno. Watch Opening Day and about 90% of the other game this season because I am a die hard Sox fan and we have hands down one of the best 2-3 rosters in my 31 years on this earth? I think that is what I will do.

Problem with rolling with no further OF additions is we're relying on the OFs to stay healthy when 3 of them have shown they struggle with that to varying degrees. Sox are pretty much fucked as soon as Eloy gets hurt. When Eloy and Engel are both hurt, they're royally fucked. Questionable decision making at its finest. I really cannot fathom that Hahn's thought process on RF and lineup balance has completely changed since the fall. He's just playing chicken with Conforto, likely because JR won't let him add on that 5th year, and to this point, Conforto/Boras are holding out for it. We know the Sox are interested - the guy with consistently the best info that actually uses his name has said they've made him an offer than frankly is probably the best he's received this offseason or he'd be signed elsewhere.

Believe it’s minor leaguers only.

Yeah.me too. There weren’t any options at 2B so truthfully I’ve expected Conforto the whole time. Not all hope is lost yet.

Yah we are and have been on the same page on this since the beginning.

The funny thing is, I don’t really think anyone bats too much of an eye at spending what we did on those guys if they just signed an impact RF first. The order of events has really pissed off the fan base. Of course, there is still the best fit out there. Truthfully outside of the lack of Conforto, it’s not too far from what I expected. Certainly did expect them to acquire a backup catcher tho.

Vaughn will be in LF full time by mid May when Eloy has his first date with the wall. Sooner or late they’ll learn he can’t play there and stay healthy.

Shrug. Little different circumstances but yeah. I certainly like 4/$75M better than 5/$100m too. I wouldn’t lose him over it personally, but easy for me to say. Definitely has the Machado vibes, so I get that angle for sure.

I don’t think either of those things have any relevance whatsoever. The Sox have clearly offered players contracts over the grandal one.

Here last night. He did insinuate that he wasn’t sure if the offer was still on table. But it’s not like the sox have signed someone else to fill that need in the meantime.

I don’t think this is really how transactions work in real life. Sox wouldn’t risk losing Conforto to another team over trying to negotiate a couple million out of the Kimbrel sweepstakes. Jimmy says Sox offered Conforto 4/$75M range. I’m sure Conforto is still trying to get 5/$100M Castellanos got. It’s a game of chicken right now waiting for someone to blink. Thankfully Sox don’t appear to have much competition.

That is alot of $ for Trevor Story. Hopefully removes 1 of 3 realistic options for Conforto other than us.

So basically Sox and Rangers then. Sure seems there for the taking. I would be absolutely astonished to see Cleveland hand out this kind of contract and he may not even be able to play games in NY.

Jinx haha