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    Tsutsugo - UPDATE: To Rays

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    7 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

    I think when he gets to 10 years service time during the season. He's currently listed on Baseball Ref at 9 years and 61 days.

    Man, time flies.  Can't believe Chris Sale has been in the league for 10 fuckin years.  

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    Tsutsugo - UPDATE: To Rays

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    17 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

    Well you could sign this guy as a DH and than sign Castellanos or Ozuna for RF. This guy would probably be a better and cheaper/younger option than say Edwin Encarnacion. Than just package Collins with some other players for a starting pitcher. The Sox have to take some risks. 

    I am so excited to watch our young, developing pitching staff get absolutely destroyed by the worst OF defense in the league in this scenario.  Sounds like so much fun - where do I sign up? 

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    Tsutsugo - UPDATE: To Rays

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    2 minutes ago, mqr said:

    I have a hard time imagining it'd be for much more than ML minimum. 

    I mean, at that price, what's the harm?

    The FutureSox article posted a few weeks ago about this cat suggested 2-4 year commitment at $8-10M AAV.  

    If this guy could play some D, I'd be significantly more interested.  I suppose if he's dirt cheap, it can't hurt to add him to the mix. But at $8-10M AAV, he's just going to make this roster even more inflexible.  

    Sox in on MadBum

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    38 minutes ago, steveno89 said:

    Do Sox fans realize the asking price for Ryu and Bum is currently exorbitant? 

    Boras will get Ryu a 4/110 deal out of a pitching starved team, and given the injuries I'm not sure we should roll the dice on that.

    I would hammer the under on 4/$110M for Ryu, and I have seen no one of note suggest anything remotely close to that figure for Ryu.

    If that what he is looking for, and eventually gets, then ya - re categorize me in the hard pass category.  

    I think 3/$60-65M sounds about right for Ryu. 

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    Brewers nearing deal to acquire Narvaez

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    Colome is the Sox 2nd best reliever.  Sure he's paid what he's worth, but its not like we have a laundry list of guys ready to replace him.  We traded a light hitting DH that tries to catch for a closer that did very well in 2019 - despite outperforming his peripherals - and is under control again in 2020 at market price for a decent closer.  The Narvaez trade isn't going to appear in any 'best trades of the decade" lists, but it was a need for need trade.  The fact that the M's turned around and traded the guys less than 12 months later for a minimal return is fairly telling.  

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    Sox in on MadBum

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    5 minutes ago, mqr said:

    Idk why people are so anti-Ryu

    Yah, I love the people that say hard pass to Ryu, but were all for Wheeler.  They've both been in the league since 2013 - Ryu 740 IP; Wheeler 749 IP.  They've literally been hurt the same amount.  

    Ryu has been a considerably better pitcher to date.  Sure, he's a bit older, and maybe a little less "upside", but he's also going to come at somewhere between 50-60% of the cost of Wheeler, which definitely makes up the difference, and then some.  

    Ryu should be priority #1 at this point.  

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    Sox in on MadBum

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    16 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

    Unbelievable how many meatball fans on Twitter want to give Bumgarner a huge contract.

    Sox Twitter is a dark place. Bumgarner would be fine at a realistic AAV ($15M or so), but it doesn’t sound like he’s going to anywhere near there. Would love to see the Twins overpay for him. 

    Keuchel is the guy that worries me the most. Just really don’t want to give Keuchel $15M+ a year. Just don’t see that aging well. 

    Will definitely be interesting to see where the Sox go from here. Would be super fun if this convinced them to pony up for the one of the big 2, but I’ll believe it when I see it. Tough day for us Sox fans, but it’s super encouraging to see the Sox put 5/$125M on the table even if they weren’t able to convert. 

    The Money Will Be Spent

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    4 minutes ago, poppysox said:

    Yeah...need to work on that in depth analysis you are so famous for.

    At least I try? I’m a generally optimistic and positive fan as well, but I at least try to contribute to topics and provide insight to a game I happen to know quite a bit about. Definitely am not as knowledgeable as some here (which Is the main reason I love this place), and I love the hear other knowledgeable fans opinions, glean info and learn to look at the game in new ways. 

    You just continually spam every thread with blank thoughts. I’m sure you’re a fantastic guy, but your bit I am sure has run thin on a lot regular posters, not just me. 4,000 posts since February is insane! 

    But this is an open forum, so you do you, man.  Go Sox! 

    The Money Will Be Spent

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    35 minutes ago, poppysox said:

    Thank you.......yes I know that you didn't mean it as a compliment.  You know that you come off as a Gloomy Gus.  It doesn't  hurt a forum to have some of both.

    Its the lack of analysis that comes along with the blind faith that comes off as silly. 

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    Successful Plan B; What’s Next?

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    Just now, BackDoorBreach said:

    So, what do we do then?  Sign Kole Calhoun and just hope Springer or Mookie are dying to play here?  They need a big bat.

    We are facing a clock and it starts this season. 

    I’ve laid out what I’d do countless times. Top of my list would be guys on expiring contracts like David Peralta or Joc Pederson. If those didn’t work I’d explore what it would take to acquire a Nimmo or Gregory Polonco. If those didn’t pan out I’d circle back to free agents on a 1 year deal. 

    Successful Plan B; What’s Next?

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    Just so puzzled how so many Sox fans can think Castellanos is a good fit based on where we stand today. RF the one position that makes sense for a 2021 free agency splash and Castellanos defense combined with long term presence of Jose just clogs this lineup long term. I don’t deny that the 2020 lineup would be drastically improved, but it’s a short sighted move. 

    You have to analyze the overall impact of a deal for an organization. Paying Castellanos $16-18M AAV over the next 4-5 years, and committing to poor team defense during his tenure is not what good teams do. 

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    Sox in on MadBum

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    At this point, my plan A would be to pivot to Cole and Strasburg, understanding that is likely a pipedream.

    Plan B: Get Ryu on a reasonable 3 year deal, and find a 1 year stop gap for the other spot.  

    Overpaying MadBum ($100M+ for him is insanity), or trading from our elite prospects to add pitching isn't the answer.  

    Zack Wheeler: To the Phils (5yr 118); Sox had made BIGGER offer

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    1 minute ago, bmags said:

    The thing that sucks about wheeler compared to machado is his money will get redistributed elsewhere, and those options are not as inspiring.

    Next years class is middling, maybe there is Ray, but ideally they could have made a run at the OF with a much more favorable class. But the top level pitchers next year are the exact same level you’d just expect Sox to bow out of (syndegaard, etc)

    Well hopefully out of Gio, Kopech and Cease and we can find 2 legit aces.  Then filling in the middle of the rotation pieces is OK.  But I understand and share your frustration, man.  Shitty day for the die hards.  

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