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I mean Bruce is a complete dipshit so I don’t take his word at any more value than a Frank Castillo I hadn’t heard until a few minutes ago.
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Definitely think this is most likely a BS report.
But if it’s true, I will reserve judgement until I see the years and dollars. Generally speaking, don’t like the Ozuna fit at all.
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Just now, username said:
Two things:
1) Not sure why we keep talking about Ozuna being a bad fielder. He’s actually pretty good out there and can also play CF.
2) In 2017 and 2019 he had reverse splits. Actually hit much better against righties. So the balance piece is achieved.What are you basing #1 on? A stupid gold glove he got a few years back? Ozuna is a well below average fielder, and his arm is shot.
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Who TF is Frank Castillo?
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Trade Stiever + Sheets + Rutherford/Basabe to Dbacks for Robbie Ray and David Peralta.
Sign Ryu 3/$63
Sign Blake Trenien 2/$16M
Sign Kevin Pillar 2/$12M
Sign Derek Dietrich 1/$3M
OD payroll: ~$135M
Lineup by mid May: Robert CF, Moncada 3B, Abreu 1B, Grandal C/DH, Eloy LF, Anderson SS, Peralta RF, Collins/McCann DH/C, Madrigal 2B
BN: Collins/McCann, Leury, Dietrich, Pillar
Pillar fills in CF until Robert arrives mid May, Dietrich 2B until Madrigal arrives mid May. Leury fills in both spots occasionally.
I think this is about as good and realistic as we can hope for. Opens RF up in 2021 for Betts/Springer/Brantley/Joc.
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Please keep the updates coming for those that don’t have access.
thanks!
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1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:
At something like 3/$45M I might take a shot.
This is about my max for both Ozuna and Castellanos. But it’s at least a year and at least $20M short IMO. At 3/$45M, I could live with their very obvious shortcomings, and hopefully they’d remain tradable.
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1 hour ago, sullythered said:
To me, Kole Calhoun just SCREAMS "White Sox free agent bust". I admittedly have no statistics to back me up, I'm only talking about the general sense I get about him, and that sense is Nick Swisher/Adam LaRoche.
At least if Calhoun is a bust, he provides plus defense, costs like $6-8M, and is a free agent again in 10 months.
If Castellanos or Ozuna are busts, they quickly become bad contracts, clog up our OF defense long term, and the Sox have minimal ability to play them at DH long term with Abreu and Vaughn.
I would prefer Calhoun at 1/$8M to either of those guys on 4/$65M+ deals, which both are very likely to beat.
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The next Vieira. Worth a shot, he very well may not even make it thru the offseason.
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Julio Urias - tho he would cost way more than I'd want to pay
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2 minutes ago, Chisox378 said:
The only guys I like left on that free agent OF market are Corey Dickerson and Domingo Santana.
If we are feeling froggy we should leap and trade for Benintendi or sign Rendon and move Moncada to RF.
Lol, what? You're complaining about K:BB ratio and then suggest Santana.
Santana is an awful fit for RF, and terrible defender.
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Just now, caulfield12 said:
Trade outfielder Starling Marté to the Cincinnati Reds in exchange for third baseman Jonathan India, outfielder Jesse Winker and right-handed pitcher Tyler Mahle.
Bowden has Cincy blowing away the Collins offer...but Puig signing elsewhere for 4/$48, too. Both seem to be overpays, both trade proposal and FA market prices.
That's a big time offer for Marte.
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10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
We’ll see...Bumgarner to the Twins right now makes a ton of sense.
That assumes Ryu wants to stay West.
I'd love for the Twins to fork over $100M to Bumgarner.
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1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:
"Expect, at some point next year, Michael Kopech and Carlos Rodon to join us.”
“I just don’t know when he’s going to be on the major league active roster. His rehab has gone wonderfully. He’s perfectly on pace. He’s going to be in spring training without restriction, and he’s going to be over 18 months removed from throwing a pitch in anger to a hitter. So, let’s let the kid develop, and when he’s ready, he’s going to be back.”
Basically because of TJ the Sox have to limit his innings and much of that will occur in the minors via short starts maybe skipping his turn once ina while or lief innings but mosy likely just not overtaxing his arm expecting him to to 7+ innings right away, but building up to a point where if pitching well can be brought up.
Everything in quotes is from Hahn , The last paragraph is me .
Thank you, Sir.
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7 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said:
you mean you won't dig for me. Thats the first I heard. Sometimes Chisox59 people just throw stuff out there. If hes on pace then i dont understand why he would be in AAA.
then again Rick is the g.m. and i am just a boob on the computer
There is a more detailed post on the topic I did a few months back.
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Just now, centerfieldsixers said:
you mean you won't dig for me. Thats the first I heard. Sometimes Chisox59 people just throw stuff out there. If hes on pace then i dont understand why he would be in AAA.
then again Rick is the g.m. and i am just a boob on the computer
Hahn has said it multiple times - that's all I can tell you.
The reasons would be that he is going to be on an innings limit in 2020 and starting him in AAA with kid gloves would mean that he wouldn't have to be shut down in August. And two - if he spends a couple months in AAA, Sox get a year of control back.
Basically, if he breaks camp with the Sox, he gets shut down in August and you lose a year of control. If you start him in AAA, you lose maybe 25-30 innings in 2020 when he's pitching in the minors, but you get the year of control back, AND he doesn't need to get shut down in August when potentially the Sox are battling for a WC spot.
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Just now, centerfieldsixers said:
cant seem to find that quote
Its out there. He said it in the long podcast/ Q&A thing he did with Garfein a couple months ago. Also has said it a few times in interviews since then. I am not just making it up, but I am also not going to go dig out the quote for you.
@Chicago White Sox back me up here.
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3 minutes ago, mqr said:
This, I assume, is ignoring Mauer?
He wasn't a FA. It was an extension. That hampered their ability to spend money elsewhere for years and years and years.
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2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
They just offered 5 and $100 to Wheeler. The Mauer extension blows away anything the White Sox have done. They don’t sign external free agents because their farm system (see Tampa) used to produce a bucketload of them until the early 2010’s. One year, they went out and signed Santana, Hughes and Nicasio the same offseason for the rotation.
I am aware of all of this. How'd those Santana, Hughes and Nolasko (not Nicasio) contracts work out?
The Twins are a super cheap org. Unfortunately they are now run by two dudes who absolutely know what they're doing, but they're going to have serious financial restraints, and their window is now.
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3 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said:
i have not heard that. feel free to provide
Rick has has stated multiple times in interviews this offseason that Michael Kopech is starting the year in AAA.
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15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
How many all-in teams can afford to punt on the first 40 games of the season...? The Twins don’t consider the White Sox or Indians threats, yet, especially if CLE trades Lindor, Kluber and Jose Ramirez (likely 2/3.)
I am not even sure I consider the Twins that much of threat. They still have 2 gigantic holes in the rotation (3 for the first 40 games), a hole at 1B or 3B, horrific IF defense, and their best OF can't stay on the field for more than week.
The chances the Twins repeat their miracle 2019 is extremely low. They look like a slightly above .500 team right now. I suspect they'll sign some more pitching, and be the ALC favorite, but they have a lot of work to do as well, and have shown little ability to add impact FA.
If you guy's think the Sox are cheap, the largest FA contract in franchise history to a position player is 3/$24M to Jason fuckin' Castro. Imagine that.
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2 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said:
if hes healthy no way he is in the minors
Our GM has said otherwise. But feel free to ignore the information provided.
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6 minutes ago, DirtySox said:
Agreed. I think he will mash too. I just hope Robert can cover the entire outfield in this scenario.
Man, if the Sox sign Castellanos, I hope the first year goes well and it comes without a NTC. Just seems like a guy we'll be wanting to improve on within 18 months. Committing to 67% of your OF defense being well below average for the next 4 seasons usually doesn't turn out well.
I'd way rather find our long term RF in next year's FA class. Maybe Adolfo will explode in the meantime and we won't even need to. Castellanos definitely makes 2020 a better team, but I just hate the fit with the Abreu extension.
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8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:
Kopech isn't in the big league longer than half the season as far as Hahn has implied.
I mean, Kopech really only needs to be in AAA until late May. 20 MLB starts sounds about right.
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Kinda, but doesn’t hurt to see what’s out there.