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If Harper to the Phillies gets announced before anything on Machado, I'd have mixed feelings. It may take them out of the race for Machado, but if it doesn't, the Phillies just got a lot more attractive for MM. Its basically the Sox thing I think for the Sox - if they land MM before Harper makes his decision, if they're willing to keep whatever offer they have to Harper on the table (BIGGGG IF), the Sox likely become more attractive to Harper.

I want both as well, but MM is happening first. And I think the chances of the Sox landing both is microscopically low at this point - I don't think Harper is interested in the Sox at all. There has been virtually no Sox/Harper connections since the Winter Meetings.

Pretty obvious the Sox focus in on MM, which it should be - he is the far better long term fit.

Well, this is boring.

Quintana for Eloy and Cease looks awfully lopsided, but I doubt you'll give them credit for that. I've never wanted a prospect to fail more than Tatis. I think he's going to be a good player, but he does have major strike out concerns. I think he's very likely he struggles a ton in the majors in the early going, not too dissimilar from Moncada.

Charlotte's pen is going to be STACKED

Harper is going to get more. I’m sure Lozano knows that. Harper is also wayyyyy more likely to become a bad contract IMO, and perhaps evenly quickly.

And extended him right away! Gahh, that was brutal!

Thanks

What was the previous comments from Roeper?

The offseason after Cordell was acquired Hahn mentioned that many teams asked him repeatedly about Cordell. We haven't really seen a healthy Cordell yet, but not sure we'll ever get the chance. He does have an option left, so would be great to get him a bunch of healthy ABs in Charlotte through June and see what we have.

Yah, really no one on that list that I feel great about giving away for nothing. I think pretty much all of them get claimed if DFA'd.

That is precisely my point.

Ya, I disagree.

At this point, if they're flipping guys in July, they need to flip for single A upside lottery tickets or recently signed interesting international guys. There isn't space for more AAAA or close to majors but blocked fringy guys. There isn't room.

For sure, but just looking at right now, you can see how there will be a crunch with a large number of guys that will need to be protected next offseason. Most guys currently on the 40 man are keepers, or at least interesting enough to think they'd have some value around the league.

In other news, the 40 man is getting a bit crowded. Starting to get to the point that cutting guys may get a bit painful. Order of next guys to go, IMO: Manny Banuelos, Ryan Cordell, Dylan Covey, Kodi Medeiros, Thyago Vieria, Jose Rondon, Carson Fulmer, Jordan Stephens, Nicky Delmonico, Adam Engel. The first few could go without much pain, but you start to lose guys that are interesting and you'd like to hold onto. Everyone on this list but Medeiros and Stephens have MLB experience. The roster crunch next season is going to be real. Hope Rick thinks about some creative trades over the next 12 months to trim some of this and get back value that doesn't need to be protected for awhile.

I think the Phillies would potentially have interest in other 3B options if MM goes elsewhere. The Sox, ya - this is their plan. The Yankees, they have internal options they can roll with at the position

For Manny - so he doesn't lose more suitors. If the Phillies sign Harper, who is he left with other than the Sox. For the teams - so they can move on with their offseason plans. I agree there isn't a rush, and this certainly has not been completed in hasty fashion, but at some point, it makes sense for both teams to get the deal done.

Tilson will probably clear and be stashed in Charlotte. Leury is a China doll, so decent chance we see him again this season.

Tilson DFA'd. Confirmed.

Gotcha, thanks for the response.

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Yah...that's a big deal.

No apologies necessary. Just curious what @Whitesox27 concluded from it.