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Pnoles is insufferable on Twitter. His outward love for Notre Dame just makes it that much easier to dispise him.

Nor should they really. We're not going to have 40 man space for more mid-tier prospects you'd acquire by trading Colome, Alonso, etc., pretty soon.

I think Devers was on the table. I think it was Devers or Moncada with Kopech. Sox chose Moncada over the future 1B, and they made the right decision IMO. Mookie was obviously not available (nor does he really fit our rebuilding timeframe) and I am not sure if Benintendi was ever available or not.

Yes. I'd RATHER both be on the bench.

Per MLBTR on option: Herrera’s third-year option is valued at $10MM with a $1MM buyout, tweetsBruce Levine of CBS Chicago / 670 The Score. That indicates that Herrera will earn $17MM between the first two seasons of the deal, with the buyout making up the remainder of that $18MM guarantee. The exact terms of the vesting option remain unclear, though Levine notes that Herrera will need to be healthy in both 2019 and 2020 for it to vest, so it’s likely a combined number of innings pitched or appearances that’ll trigger the third year. As with all vesting options, it’ll revert to a straight club option if Herrera does not meet the designated criteria.

Exactly. Yolmer is fine if pressed into duty for 2 weeks during a DL stint. But he was exposed last year player everyday. I'd rather give Rondon a chance at 3B or 2B next year if Machado goes elsewhere, or forwhatever reason we move Moncada to 3B (or CF, which I don't see happening).

Anything that includes Yolmer in the everyday lineup is not optimal.

Tilson I am sure will be the one DFA'd. Cordell or Clarkin probably next 2 to go.

Moncada was a better prospect than Devers at the time of the trade, and I would still take Moncada over Devers. The Sale trade was fine. There is a point of dimensing returns and we saw that. Heck ya I would have preferred Moncada, Kopech. Devers and Basabe, but that is an unprecedented haul. The Sox got two blue chippers that are still very young. Boston got what they wanted, we still have 5-6 years to get what we want out of the deal.

Vieria is quite a bit further down the pecking order. I like the signing. Bullpen should be a lot deeper, and we still have a ton of interesting/exciting arms in the minors. Herrera stays in KC and continues on like he always had last summer, and he's probably looking at 4-5 year deal at around $12M+ AAV. This could be a sneaky good signing if he stays healthy.

Nice call Chili! Thanks for sharing.

Parker was a puzzling non-tender for the Halos.

Fair, but paying MM more than you need to doesn't exactly help landing Harper as well, or any other supplemental pieces for the future. Machado is my biggest target and I am willing to stretch a bit to get him, but I just think the Sox are playing this correctly. I don't think he needs a $75M premium to sign with the Sox over Philly.

He isn't taking something like 5 years $125-$150M from the Yankees over 7/$210-230M. Machado's market isn't what he hoped it would be, and that's partially (mainly?) his own fault. He is going to to take whatever the best offer is. At this point, who knows what that will be. I still think it'll be somewhere between $250M-$290M frontloaded with opt-outs, personally. But coming in and blowing the current market away by $100M+ seems............less than prudent at this point in time.

This is awful take. People need to be patient. Landing Machado is HUGE and incredibly important to the Sox future, but you don't just throw in $15M extra per season for shits and giggles. Being conservatively aggressive is the right play, and its very clearly what the Sox are doing. Being patient sucks, and we all want this process to end, but I will be so much happier and the organization will be in so much better shape to fill out the rest of the roster if MM is signed for 7/$220M than 7/$325M.

That's what surprises me. If 7/$210M is really the top offer, have to imagine teams like the Braves, Angels, Twins, Brewers, and Padres show varying degrees of interest.

7/$210M would be a grandfuckingslam for the White Sox.

Pretty lame that barstool would start that shit, but I guess you can’t be too surprised.

Ahh gotcha that was not clear.

Links?

Probably fake, but hope not!

Lots of productive discussion going on here I see. If you guys had to make a $1k bet of Machado signing before or after Jan 31, where would you put your money?

I personally think Sox are at 7/$230M and the Yankees are more like 5/$160M. Phillies are the wildcard IMO. Manny is just waiting for offers to increase. As frustrating as the process is, Hahn is playing his cards correctly here. I’d be willing to go 10/$300M personally and front load it, and that may ultimately be where we land, but don’t see the point in rushing into it with the situation as it currently stands.

Seems interesting enough. Like it.

Avi isn’t exactly great in OF either. I think Avi and Eloy are probably comparable defensively.